US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Iran could be the biggest winner from this war. The west needs cheap natural gas and Iran is the obvious place to get it.

So we could see sanctions start to be lifted relatively soon.
 
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There is so much disinformation about this war it has got to be a record. Those pictures of the Ukrainian president are all from 2021. Which news site is actually legit to watch?
 
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Mirai said:
Were there many who refused? Could they also leave any time they wanted to? You know sometimes conscription is implicit.



That's called conscription. Russia has done it, USA has done it, many others have done it. We had it in SA under SADF.

You're now arguing against something which is commonly done everywhere. Yes there are professional armies and territorial defense forces (national guard) but if there is an all out war, then able bodied men are usually called up to fight. Many of these men already have had military training.

That's why the Russians should not have invaded.
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they volunteered.

if you are lying in a trench wanting to fight, and the 2 either side of you do not want to fight, you are in kak. they will not shoot, they will tremble and cower. i do not agree with conscription, they are meat shields nothing more. no training, no will, no morale. just a meat shield, something to draw fire.

Jola said:
You are talking about Putin now, I guess ?

He has been one of the main players betraying his people for money.
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what!? putin is jewish!? you learn something every day. btw zuckerberg is jewish, yet he is now allowing praise of the nazis on his social platform..

Mirai said:
To be fair, UPA were more anti-Polish than anti-anyone else. When the Soviets occupied them they turned their attention on the Soviets. Ukrainians did co-operate with Hitler but not because they loved the ideology but because they had a common enemy or common enemies. On the one side many disliked Poland, on the other side they were oppressed by the Soviets. The current lot are not followers of Hitler or some sort of Germany supporters but are ultra nationalists with an authoritarian bend. They could co-operate with anyone who has a common enemy with them. But they are a minority of Ukrainians.
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you have it the wrong way around, they targeted russian ukrainians then russia provided aid and marched to crimea to protect their assets from them. they have continued to target russian ukrainians for 8 years while the world turned a blind eye.

TheNihilist said:
No, you are saying anyone that calls others "nazis" falls into the "those types" group, so I am suggesting that every side is doing it so that every one is one of "those types".

Even if there were actual Nazi baby eating soldiers in Ukraine, it doesn't justify a full-on invasion, not does it make the communist regime and less ****
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no i did not say that. you think i said that. people are creating make believe nazis it is common in threads here, but now there are actual nazis and they are ignoring it or accepting as "its only a few so its okay". it only took 1 to spread their doctrine through fear and intimidation etc...



people tend to avoid the truth for a comfortable lie. like avoiding actual nasiz and creating make belief nazis of someone they dont like or agree with, its quite popular lately...
 
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Wrath of Khan said:
There is so much disinformation about this war it has got to be a record. Those pictures of the Ukrainian president are all from 2021. Which news site is actually legit to watch?
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There are videos of him that are up to date, they are just choosing pictures for the memes and news articles.

Although now they're apparently green-screened too.

Anything to paint the president as weak in a war that he didn't start
 
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And the news keeps saying, "they're fighting in Kiev in the streets"
Meanwhile the live webcams of Kiev show people middling around, going shopping and birds flying.. all quite on the Western front.
 
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Wrath of Khan said:
And the news keeps saying, "they're fighting in Kiev in the streets"
Meanwhile the live webcams of Kiev show people middling around, going shopping and birds flying.. all quite on the Western front.
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Which news specifically? France24 mentions Kharkiv, not Kyiv.
 
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Wrath of Khan said:
And the news keeps saying, "they're fighting in Kiev in the streets"
Meanwhile the live webcams of Kiev show people middling around, going shopping and birds flying.. all quite on the Western front.
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Yeah, nothing to see here folks - move along...
 
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