US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Disclaimer: Meme may be outdated, photos and numbers are not reflective of the current events in Ukraine.

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Seven_Nine_Eight

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Honestly, Ukraine has been really good at propaganda so far.
The radio silence enforced by Russia (they apparently told all of their soldiers not to take their phones), is hurting them I feel.
Seems to be changing though and now we're getting more and more Russian-friendly videos now.
I guess if you are a person that is easily influenced and fooled by propaganda then it hasn't been too bad.
 

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If you look at the pre-war results the country used to flip back and forth much like conservative vs democrat in the US.
The circumstances of the last election in Ukraine are that only one side got to participate while the other side was completely suppressed.
Again I'm asking you do you seriously think the 2019 Ukrainian election was legitimate?
The "other side"? Rebels. Actively fighting the government. In a region with less than 2.5% of the population of the country.

Just stop.

Just...

Go home.
 

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I don't think he mentioned "nukelear" at all. I'm seeing many outlets reporting it though...
A lot of cold war indoctrination still stands on both sides.
They are counting on that so nobody questions.
Also defcon 2 apparently, which means the same nuclear deterrents are readied by the West.
 

The Trutherizer

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I am afraid the only thing these SWIFT sanctions will do is speed up the development and use of alternatives. Both China and Russia have alternatives and will no doubt be used more often which will lead to incremental improvements.
With Russia party to whatever system the Chinese have, it's going to face an uphill battle for wider adoption.
Don't know if you noticed, but the world is serious about isolating Russia economically.
 

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With Russia party to whatever system the Chinese have, it's going to face an uphill battle for wider adoption.
Don't know if you noticed, but the world is serious about isolating Russia economically.

And it will be harder for all those oligarchs and politicians whose kids are studying in Europe and US and living there.
 

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Yet you believe in the others.
Simply because they were posted.
Simply..........

Nope, I don't. Which is hence why I asked for your proof.

I haven't made any claims, other than the fact that your posts are complete garbage.

@Vorastra posted actual evidence that the ghost of Kyiv is a fable. That's literally all you had to do, and still have to do on all your other claims, which, judging by your vehement ramblings instead, you're never going to do.
 

The Trutherizer

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Nope, I don't. Which is hence why I asked for your proof.

I haven't made any claims, other than the fact that your posts are complete garbage.

@Vorastra posted actual evidence that the ghost of Kyiv is a fable. That's literally all you had to do, and still have to do on all your other claims, which, judging by your vehement ramblings instead, you're never going to do.
Welcome to the spin cycle.
 

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If you look at the pre-war results the country used to flip back and forth much like conservative vs democrat in the US.
The circumstances of the last election in Ukraine are that only one side got to participate while the other side was completely suppressed.
Again I'm asking you do you seriously think the 2019 Ukrainian election was legitimate?
For the most part yes,not perfect but I think it reflected the will of the majority.

Now please answer my question, should the democratic process of an entire country be put on hold because 12% of the population can't be civil and insist on armed insurrection? This conflict has been ongoing for years, what would you have done differently to elect a leader?
 
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