US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Unhappy438

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You know Russia has their own groups like this? It's not a Ukraine only thing.

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Ermgerd, quick Putler, invade Russia for some denazification.
 

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World war?
The intimation being that if a world war breaks out...........
Oh darn the joke was that the shop was originally called Chuck's....
Its called Sneed's seed n feed but if it had the original name then it would be......
 

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A number of countries tonight calling on their citizens to leave Russia immediately.
 

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You know Russia has their own groups like this? It's not a Ukraine only thing.

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Russian internal forces can deal with them, Ukrainian government refused to.
Rest of the world refused to help.
Guess Russia needed to go in.
 

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All this time we were told Nazis bad.
The entire world is seemingly jumping to their defense.
So confusing.
Is it still illegal to own Nazi symbols and stuff ?
Do Nazi sympathizer groups all get free arms now or what ?
Maybe just Ukraine ones......i dunno.
Well at the same time Putin is being called a Nazi for claiming to try and de-Nazify a country and anyone not falling over themselves to virtue signal gross condemnation of him is being called a Communist..... I doubt sanity is really at play here.
 

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You know Russia has their own groups like this? It's not a Ukraine only thing.

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So basically, you skip the entire context of my reply to point out something that people have already mentioned and myself have already agreed with previously? Dave, you will never change :p

Can you show me where the UN has cited their warcrimes against the people of Ukraine in the war of Donbass or is that not Russian enough for you to worry about?
 

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Testbook eh ?
Surely you mean textbook ?

Right.

20-25% is already proven correct.
Take my word for it so long.

Due to literally lack of any evidence, I'm gonna pass on taking your word on absolutely anything.

Now please do carry on with whatever crud you're posting. You do seem like quite the armchair geopolitical expert.
 

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All this time we were told Nazis bad.
The entire world is seemingly jumping to their defense.
So confusing.
Is it still illegal to own Nazi symbols and stuff ?
Do Nazi sympathizer groups all get free arms now or what ?
Maybe just Ukraine ones......i dunno.
This is a obtuse line to pursue, every country in the world probably has Nazi-types. The Ukrainian president is Jewish, surprised you haven't made a Jewish argument for everything. Had to pick something I guess.

As an aside, aren't we all glad England hasn't decided to reclaim it's Empire from years ago..
 

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Due to literally lack of any evidence, I'm gonna pass on taking your word on absolutely anything.

Now please do carry on with whatever crud you're posting. You do seem like quite the armchair geopolitical expert.
20-25% already correct.
Take my word.
My sources are just better than yours.

Oh yeah, the "iron man" thing is fake too.
 

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This is a obtuse line to pursue, every country in the world probably has Nazi-types. The Ukrainian president is Jewish, surprised you haven't made a Jewish argument for everything. Had to pick something I guess.

As an aside, aren't we all glad England hasn't decided to reclaim it's Empire from years ago..
Igor Kolomoisky is jewish too, links to Neo nazi battalion.
Whats your point ?
My point is that the Ukrainian government did nothing to stop the attacks on Russian speaking citizens.
Neither did the rest of the world.
What argument would i make against jews ?
Iv seen headlines that Netanyahu met with neo nazi parties and that Israel funded some....
What point did you expect me to make about jews ?

Im sure there are plenty of 18-60 year old jewish men enlisted in the Ukrainian forces right now.
They wouldnt have left, the president is jewish.
 

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Well at the same time Putin is being called a Nazi for claiming to try and de-Nazify a country and anyone not falling over themselves to virtue signal gross condemnation of him is being called a Communist..... I doubt sanity is really at play here.
Yes, it's a bit like Trudeau being called a tyrant for wanting to disperse a border blocking protest, while some other leader who invades other countries, imprisons and assassinates opponents, is an emperor for life and threatens nuclear war, is somehow a hero to some here.

Definite insanity.
 

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Already posted up above and they are sending them soviet mig 29s it seems. No training required as the Ukrainians are already familiar with them.

I hope they do their best with it, MiG-29s are by its own limitations more an interceptor than a multirole fighter. It is made for immediate red air engagements, not for air combat patrols. If Ukraine is to strike from the West, they could do with more Su-27s. Nonetheless, if Ukraine have the intelligence of a Russian air strike or air drop deployment of any kind, then the MiG-29s can prove useful, if the target is in comfortable range from the airbase.

There was a cool YouTube video of a former US navy pilot giving Super Hornet training to Malaysia. Malaysia being a buyer of very different configurable and behaving aircraft wings, they have separate bases for very different squadrons, one which was for MiG-29s which is now grounded as the Malaysians preferred to replacing them with the latest SU-30s than to upgrading the MiG-29s. Anyhow, the navy pilot posted videos of him dogfighting the Super Hornet against a Fulcrum, his entire channel have since been deleted, but it was a good informative watch. If anyone wanted to know the result, whoever took the lead on the target would win, almost each and every time. Lesson, be the better pilot.
 

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I'm starting to think that the real existential crisis Russia faced was the maintenance bill for all the dilapidated old armor they clearly have.
 

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Igor Kolomoisky is jewish too, links to Neo nazi battalion.
Whats your point ?
My point is that the Ukrainian government did nothing to stop the attacks on Russian speaking citizens.
Neither did the rest of the world.
What argument would i make against jews ?
Iv seen headlines that Netanyahu met with neo nazi parties and that Israel funded some....
What point did you expect me to make about jews ?

Im sure there are plenty of 18-60 year old jewish men enlisted in the Ukrainian forces right now.
They wouldnt have left, the president is jewish.
It seems, that in your opinion, the entire episode can be justified as Ukraine have some pro-Nazi's living there, so you all good with an invasion to stop them. Sliding doors, just wondered if you had rather considered the Jewish angle?
 

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I hope they do their best with it, MiG-29s are by its own limitations more an interceptor than a multirole fighter. It is made for immediate red air engagements, not for air combat patrols. If Ukraine is to strike from the West, they could do with more Su-27s. Nonetheless, if Ukraine have the intelligence of a Russian air strike or air drop deployment of any kind, then the MiG-29s can prove useful, if the target is in comfortable range from the airbase.

There was a cool YouTube video of a former US navy pilot giving Super Hornet training to Malaysia. Malaysia being a buyer of very different configurable and behaving aircraft wings, they have separate bases for very different squadrons, one which was for MiG-29s which is now grounded as the Malaysians preferred to replacing them with the latest SU-30s than to upgrading the MiG-29s. Anyhow, the navy pilot posted videos of him dogfighting the Super Hornet against a Fulcrum, his entire channel have since been deleted, but it was a good informative watch. If anyone wanted to know the result, whoever took the lead on the target would win, almost each and every time. Lesson, be the better pilot.
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It seems, that in your opinion, the entire episode can be justified as Ukraine have some pro-Nazi's living there, so you all good with an invasion to stop them. Sliding doors, just wondered if you had rather considered the Jewish angle?
I dont understand what you want me to say about jews ?
Neo Nazis killing Russians is Russian business.
If nobody else wanted to sort it out then they will.

Here, have some thermobarics.
 

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I hope they do their best with it, MiG-29s are by its own limitations more an interceptor than a multirole fighter. It is made for immediate red air engagements, not for air combat patrols. If Ukraine is to strike from the West, they could do with more Su-27s. Nonetheless, if Ukraine have the intelligence of a Russian air strike or air drop deployment of any kind, then the MiG-29s can prove useful, if the target is in comfortable range from the airbase.

There was a cool YouTube video of a former US navy pilot giving Super Hornet training to Malaysia. Malaysia being a buyer of very different configurable and behaving aircraft wings, they have separate bases for very different squadrons, one which was for MiG-29s which is now grounded as the Malaysians preferred to replacing them with the latest SU-30s than to upgrading the MiG-29s. Anyhow, the navy pilot posted videos of him dogfighting the Super Hornet against a Fulcrum, his entire channel have since been deleted, but it was a good informative watch. If anyone wanted to know the result, whoever took the lead on the target would win, almost each and every time. Lesson, be the better pilot.

Personally I think they could do with more Turkish drones over the fighter jets but I guess they need both.
 
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