US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[rambo919]

Racism because the Ukrainians want to focus on evacuating the Ukrainians first...

This is not a Russian vs Ukrainian conflict.... it's a Russian vs Slav conflict. And neither side is innocent.

 

[DreamKing]

I just don't understand that the restriction of freedom of movement of all men, how that can be justified?

 

[PrimeSteak]

But the war has brought together some strange bedfellows. Right wing siding with the remnants of communism in siding with Putin. Even here on the forum.

It's like Bizzaro World in here...

 

[Emjay]

It's emjay. Expect it.

This is just next level galaxy brain here. You are so desperate to own me, you keep PKing yourself.

 

[Polymathic]

It's pretty easy. Discrimination based on race or nationality is wrong.

Here hoping the vandals were big brain and knew that restaurant was owned by a Russian oligarch.

 

[Cray]

For the mouth breathers: "Bomb the **** out of Putin".

Bitching about the lack of nuanced discussion and then calling people mouth breathers? Ever thought that you might be part of the problem?

 

[rambo919]

Anti blackness is a whole other rabbit whole you don't really want to go down. It's one of those things people dream up and make a thing out of.

But the war has brought together some strange bedfellows. Right wing siding with the remnants of communism in siding with Putin. Even here on the forum.

Almost no one is actually siding with Russia btw.... just putting that out there.

 

[Emjay]

Anti blackness is a whole other rabbit whole you don't really want to go down. It's one of those things people dream up and make a thing out of.

But the war has brought together some strange bedfellows. Right wing siding with the remnants of communism in siding with Putin. Even here on the forum.

It's odd because so many people are trying to view the Ukranian/Russian issue through the lens of the current Western cultural wars.

Here is a thread that may explain it for you better than I can.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498190333024215041

 

[Gyre]

That's how sanctions applied on a national level work, you punish everyone with "collective responsibility" and try to coerce them to force the leaders (through protests, assassination, regime change, whatever) to change.

In this instance there was no grace period, it was simply people taking their frustrations out on "russians". I can understand people are angry and passionate, but it isn't justification to harm innocent people - in the example of the cargo ship, they couldn't even turn back due to lack of fuel.

 

[DreamKing]

release prisoners as soldiers to defend the country? wtf that can be justified also?

 

[PrimeSteak]

This is not a Russian vs Ukrainian conflict....

How not? Since Russia INVADED UKRAINE? HUH??????

it's a Russian vs Slav conflict. And neither side is innocent.

Yeah, cause Russia also invaded the other Slavic countries like:

In total, there are more than 360 million Slavs around the world. Slavic people (Slavs) can be divided into three subgroups based upon their geographic and linguistic distribution: West Slavs (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia), East Slavs (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine), and South Slavs (Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Bulgaria, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia). Countries with substantial Slavic populations, but which aren't majority Slavic countries include Germany and Denmark.

Slavic Countries 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

You're losing it, man

 

[Emjay]

Bitching about the lack of nuanced discussion and then calling people mouth breathers? Ever thought that you might be part of the problem?

Not those that have been attacking me personally for days in this thread for days, or by calling me Alt-Right and a Trumptard (or whatever was said)?

I somehow think you are not looking at this with a neutral perspective.

 

[Gyre]

These people are so small and petty they are bringing Trump into a discussion that literally has nothing to do with him. They put people in the same boxes and then make the dumbest assumptions about every statement. Then they get mad when the same logic gets applied to them. I really think there are very few adults left in the room.

So you can bring up the USA's mistakes but we can't bring up Trump's mistakes?

 

[SlinkyMike]

But the war has brought together some strange bedfellows. Right wing siding with the remnants of communism in siding with Putin. Even here on the forum.

Impressionable 'cucks' who are anything but 'based' regardless of what they might desperately wish to claim.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Not those that have been attacking me personally for days in this thread for days, or by calling me Alt-Right and a Trumptard (or whatever was said)?

So your solution to this is counter-attacking people, thus dissolving your standpoint in the process as well...?

I somehow think you are not looking at this with a neutral perspective.

And you are?

 

[rambo919]

Funny how Trump ends up being so much more important to the left than to the right...... almost as if they are obsessed with him.....

 

[Gyre]

Not those that have been attacking me personally for days in this thread for days, or by calling me Alt-Right and a Trumptard (or whatever was said)?

I somehow think you are not looking at this with a neutral perspective.

 

[rambo919]

How not? Since Russia INVADED UKRAINE? HUH??????

Yeah, cause Russia also invaded the other Slavic countries like:

Slavic Countries 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

You're losing it, man

You want a hanky for all that froth coming out of your mouth?

 

[PrimeSteak]

It's bizzaro world because so many people are trying to view the Ukranian/Russian issue through the lens of the current Western cultural wars.

Ok, so now it's the "culture war" 's fault?

GG

 

[Cray]

So you can bring up the USA's mistakes but we can't bring up Trump's mistakes?

Not to mention that Trump has intentionally inserted himself into the discourse

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ng-putin-smart-hints-at-2024-presidential-bid

Donald Trump defends calling Putin ‘smart’, hints at 2024 presidential bid

Ex-president tells CPAC he could have stopped ‘appalling’ Russian invasion of Ukraine before giving strongest indication he will run again