no unpacking required... - it is so nice to mount and sit on our moral high horse...looking at the whether to's and why nots .... far removed from your society being ripped apart... when **** fits the fan, of your government's making or ineptitude --that becomes academic, - you take up arms and defend, as a country...even the unsavory facets of your society..is part of your society...- the normal societal ebbing and flowing, discourse crap can resume once you have rid your country of the invader... Like mentioned before...- I see the whole Vlad overreach as such : his justification does not warrant the destruction that is going on....it is akin to CT being bombed by Botswana, because they are not happy how two Tswana villages are being treated in Limpopo....it is just a pretext, to feed his echo chamber society back home. Why not just annex the Dombas region..slap up a demilitarized zone...construct a solid border. No , he wants to go full retard...drag us back to time, that he find more comfortable for himself...