US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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yebocan

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*sigh*

Look, I know this thread is long, but there is content early on in this thread that unpacks this to a degree. But the USA have been cavorting with these extremists for a long time.
no unpacking required... - it is so nice to mount and sit on our moral high horse...looking at the whether to's and why nots .... far removed from your society being ripped apart... when **** fits the fan, of your government's making or ineptitude --that becomes academic, - you take up arms and defend, as a country...even the unsavory facets of your society..is part of your society...- the normal societal ebbing and flowing, discourse crap can resume once you have rid your country of the invader... Like mentioned before...- I see the whole Vlad overreach as such : his justification does not warrant the destruction that is going on....it is akin to CT being bombed by Botswana, because they are not happy how two Tswana villages are being treated in Limpopo....it is just a pretext, to feed his echo chamber society back home. Why not just annex the Dombas region..slap up a demilitarized zone...construct a solid border. No , he wants to go full retard...drag us back to time, that he find more comfortable for himself...
 

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They also seem to be brainwashed and running off of external scripts. The same people seem to in general be:
Afraid c19 is coming to get them
Afraid global warming is coming to get them
Afraid God (especially that far right wing radical monster Jesus) is coming to get them
Afraid whites are coming to get them
Afraid traditionalists are coming to get them
Afraid afraid afraid afraid afraid

Now they seem afraid Putin is coming to get them, the same people seem to be on the same predictable script set every time something big happens.

The collective is everything, the collective is right, the collective is holy..... everyone outside the collective is the enemy.

Yeah ... generally crossing borders and firing rockets at people tends to make people think that
 

rambo919

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no unpacking required... - it is so nice to mount and sit on our moral high horse...looking at the whether to's and why nots .... far removed from your society being ripped apart... when **** fits the fan, of your government's making or ineptitude --that becomes academic, - you take up arms and defend, as a country...even the unsavory facets of your society..is part of your society...- the normal societal ebbing and flowing, discourse crap can resume once you have rid your country of the invader... Like mentioned before...- I see the whole Vlad overreach as such : his justification does not warrant the destruction that is going on....it is akin to CT being bombed by Botswana, because they are not happy how two Tswana villages are being treated in Limpopo....it is just a pretext, to feed his echo chamber society back home. Why not just annex the Dombas region..slap up a demilitarized zone...construct a solid border. No , he wants to go full retard...drag us back to time, that he find more comfortable for himself...
If SA was bombing Tswana villiages, doing rape and murder in general etc.... I would not blame Botswana for invading. Fair is fair.
 

rambo919

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Lmao. Nah, my guy. I'm not you sadly. I'll be happy to donate a hanky to you, perhaps some sedatives as well...

It's time to stop, my guy
Yes, you are right.... it's time to stop attempting to have civil discourse with you. :thumbsup:
 

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So your solution to this is counter-attacking people, thus dissolving your standpoint in the process as well...?

And you are?

ScrooV and Nihilist, and a couple of others, have let their opinions posted in the Jordan Peterson thread spill over into here. This is not the only place they continually attack me, or anyone they view to be different to them politically. This is a constant with those two.

So, by all means, tell me more about how I am the one that should turn the other cheek. If you are anyone were impartial, you would acknowledge their barrage of their constant effluent is not really helping the situation.

But, I digress. It does feel like I am punching down so I am going to stop.
 

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These people are so small and petty they are bringing Trump into a discussion that literally has nothing to do with him. They put people in the same boxes and then make the dumbest assumptions about every statement. Then they get mad when the same logic gets applied to them. I really think there are very few adults left in the room.
Coming from someone who trawls twitter 24/7 for the most ridiculous pictures of bronies and the like then posts screenies to one of many 100 plus page threads here attempting to insinuate that the entirety of the political left wing spectrum is adequately represented in these posts, the irony is so rich here, I'm gagging.

Honestly hun, self-awareness wont solve your problems but it will give you a fighting chance of just not looking as utterly simple minded and parochial as what you do.
 

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ScrooV and Nihilist, and a couple of others, have let their opinions posted in the Jordan Peterson thread spill over into here. This is not the only place they continually attack me, or anyone they view to be different to them politically. This is a constant with those two.
And now there's a conspiracy against you?
So, by all means, tell me more about how I am the one that should turn the other cheek. If you are anyone who is impartial, you would acknowledge their barrage of their constant effluent is not really helping the situation.
The best tactic to use is to actually use your arguments/debate against such people instead of using their own tactics against them. I've learnt that at least from my time on this hellscape that is myBB...
But, I digress. It does feel like I am punching down so I am going to stop.
And so your grave is dug deeper... And your point is further nullified. Quit while you're ahead, my guy. Also, the "punching down" meme comes from people with superiority complexes, nice to see your true colours, my guy.
 

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ScrooV and Nihilist, and a couple of others, have let their opinions posted in the Jordan Peterson thread spill over into here. This is not the only place they continually attack me, or anyone they view to be different to them politically. This is a constant with those two.

So, by all means, tell me more about how I am the one that should turn the other cheek. If you are anyone were impartial, you would acknowledge their barrage of their constant effluent is not really helping the situation.

But, I digress. It does feel like I am punching down so I am going to stop.

Who has raised Jordan Peterson? We are addressing your points in this thread and your "neutrality".

I will make a comparison to pass threads tho, you are effectively "victim blaming" Ukraine for the invasion. "Oh yeah, Russian is bad for invading them, but Ukraine isn't exactly innocent either, here are 10 pages why."

"Btw I'm disappointed in you specific forumite, for not being up to date on a 350 page thread of why Ukraine has a Nazi problem."

"Also, what is everyone's obsession with Nazis? Stop being such leftists."
 

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Coming from someone who trawls twitter 24/7 for the most ridiculous pictures of bronies and the like then posts screenies to one of many 100 plus page threads here attempting to insinuate that the entirety of the political left wing spectrum is adequately represented in these posts, the irony is so rich here, I'm gagging.

Honestly hun, self-awareness wont solve your problems but it will give you a fighting chance of just not looking as utterly simple minded and parochial as what you do.

The guy who told me I am brainwashed and suffering from Stockholm syndrome has an opinion of me for simply being politically right to him. How cute.

And it's interesting to know that those posts still trigger you.
 
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