US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Blu82

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Do these countries just have a big surplus of Mig's or do they not want their own nationals in the firing line?

Edit: Only saw your edit after I quoted. hmm.
Decided to expand the from the top of my head comment with some references.
 

thestaggy

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Do we know how the actual war's going? It's a war so lots of fake news and propaganda but from the snippets it seems Russia are pushing on fairly unchallenged with Ukraine electing to fight them near guerrilla tactics. You'd think all that equipment they are receiving would make it possible for them to push Russia back. And the Ukrainian president is rather dramatic and sounds peevish.

Russia is winning (they are taking territory every day) but they are taking losses.

Zelenskyy is putting on a show for quite obvious reasons. He is a major source of positive propaganda for Ukraine. Much like Churchill or Douglas ''The Situation'' MacArthur.
 

rambo919

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I can give Emjay some constructive feedback because i truly believe that she isn't a bad person.
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You are not an easy person to communicate with yourself.

You insult with sweet words and hide behind the cult of nice and compassion.

You completely ignore most of an argument and keep harping on things that have already been debunked as if they were never addressed and you keep asking the same already answered questions all the time.

You pretend to be civil and then blindside with base taunting.

I am actually starting to wonder if I am actually interpreting what I am seeing wrongly and your sudden mood shifts which resemble planned trolling so much are actually due to bi-polarity.

There is no point in being civil to you or cray for that matter because this always ends up in exactly the same hateful way where you pretend to be the one working towards peace but keep causing conflict passive aggressively.
 

Cray

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You are not an easy person to communicate with yourself.

You insult with sweet words and hide behind the cult of nice and compassion.

You completely ignore most of an argument and keep harping on things that have already been debunked as if they were never addressed and you keep asking the same already answered questions all the time.

You pretend to be civil and then blindside with base taunting.

I am actually starting to wonder if I am actually interpreting what I am seeing wrongly and your sudden mood shifts which resemble planned trolling so much are actually due to bi-polarity.

There is no point in being civil to you or cray for that matter because this always ends up in exactly the same hateful way where you pretend to be the one working towards peace but keep causing conflict passive aggressively.
It's always everyone else's fault hey Rambo?
 

s0lar

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You'd think all that equipment they are receiving would make it possible for them to push Russia back.
Same as the SA border war. Russia supplied arms to Angolan forces it just drew the war out. While Angola took that time to take political and moral victories.

i.e. In short a normal proxy war, with normal proxy war narrative and outcomes.
 

Gyre

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You are not an easy person to communicate with yourself.

You insult with sweet words and hide behind the cult of nice and compassion.

You completely ignore most of an argument and keep harping on things that have already been debunked as if they were never addressed and you keep asking the same already answered questions all the time.

You pretend to be civil and then blindside with base taunting.

I am actually starting to wonder if I am actually interpreting what I am seeing wrongly and your sudden mood shifts which resemble planned trolling so much are actually due to bi-polarity.

There is no point in being civil to you or cray for that matter because this always ends up in exactly the same hateful way where you pretend to be the one working towards peace but keep causing conflict passive aggressively.

The mood shifts may be because I am communicating with multiple people, so i may be nice and learning from one, and irritated and resistant to another. I am flawed myself.

It's also disarming when you think you are having a civil talk, and suddenly someone turns very mean/sarcastic, perhaps due to us not being able to read tone properly or because they were irritated by something else I had written.

If I do not reply to every comment, it is possible that I missed it or it was one of those posts I couldn't reply to nicely so I left it.

I also disagree with you on a great deal, like, a lot - it doesn't mean that I think you are a bad person or that i want to disrespect you, I can only say that i cannot find any justification for some things you say. I am sure it is the same for you with my own topics.
 

MiW

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So it looks like even China is not siding with Russia , but South Africa might do so firmly.

Not discussing the previous 364 pages topics, I have a question. Presuming that a new cold war is in the making, how do you guys feel to be on the Russian side of the curtain ( it's not even all the East) ?

How would you like some sanctions, no western products and some real monopoly Rands?
 
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