US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Fulcrum29]

Russian armour is being absolutely obliterated. Russian tank factories are going to be working overtime after all this.

It is still a question whether all is to be believed, and Russia has operable tanks by the hundreds. They have moved over to the Armata in any case, which has entered into production this year, limited quantities are already deployed though I haven't seen any in the reported videos or pictures.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Not big on SM but wtf exactly are you saying?

The Nationalist gevaar

 

[daveza]

Good for them. Their response was classic but no need to have lives lost.

These guys are probably mates.



Yo, dudes you're supposed to give up!

Lol, fsk you and your crappy ship.

Dickheads, now we have to shoot at you, get under cover

Ok

Boom

Fokit, that was a bit close

Get on board and lets have a dop

Don't shoot hey, lol.

 

[Blu82]

It is still a question whether all is to be believed, and Russia has operable tanks by the hundreds. They have moved over to the Armata in any case, which has entered into production this year, limited quantities are already deployed though I haven't seen any in the reported videos or pictures.

Not a lot of T-90's about either.

 

[Ecco]

Havent seen anything in the new about this, but the group anonymous have take down a number of russian websites including the one for RT news.

 

[buka001]

Of course & Russia also no doubt but don't you think the argument comes down to distance?
Not necessarily nukes we taking about here either.
Anything gets fired from 1000km away is going to be easier to counter than something fired from 500km away no?

In reality efficacy against ballistic missiles is so low, it does not really matter.

The only deterrence is through Mutually Assured Destruction.

Russians primary strategy to retain second strike (retaliatory) capabilities is through road mobile ICBM launchers and their SSBN's.

The US maintain this through their SSBN's.

As long as each side can ensure they will have enough nukes to strike back with, they can apply to the MAD doctrine.

The reason the Russians wanted to base missiles in Cuba, was to even out the numbers with the USA. In 1963 the Americans had far more nukes than the Russians. Plus a bigger advantage in better technology.

In today's sphere, the need to have bases so close is negated by SSBN technology.

 

[Supervan II]

I also remember one being blown over onto a ship in the late 80s. My family took us down to the harbour to go see it. They kept the wreckage on the breakwater for years after that.

Nope, not onto any ship. This is exactly the incident that was posted by RS. The crane was left unsecured and the wind blew it to the End-of-Line until it toppled over - the wreckage was left in situ for investigations and was just left there until being dismantled.

FTR, I worked there until 1981. The first thing we were taught re the wharf cranes were:
1. Watch the cable (power source for said cranes) when moving crane position;
2. Always secure crane once re-positioning is complete by applying the brakes;
3. Never exceed the loading capacity of any crane (there were a few different types, although this was not quite applicable to container cranes).

 

[thestaggy]

It is still a question whether all is to be believed, and Russia has operable tanks by the hundreds. They have moved over to the Armata in any case, which has entered into production this year, limited quantities are already deployed though I haven't seen any in the reported videos or pictures.

I highly doubt that the T-14 has been deployed and only 20 have been confirmed to have been delivered. They are also still in their testing phase.

The closest we will come to seeing one would be in a victory parade.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498289863774375945

The famously neutral Swiss...hehe. The world is really pissed off at Putin!

 

[buka001]

Russian armour is being absolutely obliterated. Russian tank factories are going to be working overtime after all this.

 

[daveza]

 

[ShaunSA]

The Nationalist gevaar

The Reds are coming!

/runs screaming for the hills

@Grant

 

[Polymathic]

Just checked up what the news channels are saying.

Western News Channels: reporting that Russian supply lines are being stretched.

Al Jazeera: reporting something similar in the east of the country but also reporting that the Russian military is gaining ground in the South. And Russia is claiming that they have taken control of a nuclear power plant which Ukraine denies.

RT seems to be focused on how biased the western media is and not really reporting anything about the conflict directly.

 

[ShaunSA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498289863774375945

The famously neutral Swiss...hehe. The world is really pissed off at Putin!

Yeah famously neutral for storing stolen schit in their vaults

 

[bridgeburner]

So you stay out of toxic threads and then come into them to be kinda toxic?

Well you did ask for my opinion mate

 

[Kosmik]

These guys are probably mates.



Yo, dudes you're supposed to give up!

Lol, fsk you and your crappy ship.

Dickheads, now we have to shoot at you, get under cover

Ok

Boom

Fokit, that was a bit close

Get on board and lets have a dop

Don't shoot hey, lol.

I could definitely see this happening

 

[bridgeburner]

I wonder why no one said that when the 'muricans (et al) invaded Iraq or Afghanistan.

Indeed.

 

[2023]

is there truth to this?

WATCH | Pushed, shoved and 'shot at': South Africans fleeing Ukraine claim poor treatment at border | News24

South African students stuck in Ukraine are believed to have been poorly treated at the Polish border as efforts to get them home continue.

www.news24.com

Oh noes! Ukraine Border control looking after Ukraine women and children first, the HORROR! THE HORROR!

 

[brilliantt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498254388409810944

This is not funny

 

[Emjay]

Well you did ask for my opinion mate

I wasn't commending on your second post, but your first...