US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Wut]

It's so hard to know who's who in the zoo in this war. All their equipment is the same.

That drone footage of a destroyed BUK or KUB could be Ukrainian and not Russian. I can't believe Russia would not secure the sky like any modern army would? Control the skies and bobs your uncle. Just do what the US did in Iraq, shoot everything down that flies along with any radar that can target you. Then the ground forces.

Ukraine only had like 20-30 old fighter jets to start the war with.

It seems this is a war of disinformation, whichever side has more wins the minds!

It is disinformation. I posted a gruesome video of a friendly fire incident in which Ukrainian soldiers hit one of their own convoys and then went about stripping the bodies. No one knows WTF is potting, but everyone is posting everything as Russian losses. Propaganda is how you win minds and wars apparently on Twitter and MyBB.

 

[Dave]

That drone footage of a destroyed BUK or KUB could be Ukrainian and not Russian. I can't believe Russia would not secure the sky like any modern army would? Control the skies and bobs your uncle. Just do what the US did in Iraq, shoot everything down that flies along with any radar that can target you. Then the ground forces.

You would think so, but it's quite apparent they don't have the air superiority that is really required. There's also the issue that Russia doesn't have any Bayraktars.

Ukraine only had like 20-30 old fighter jets to start the war with.

Fortunately they had just bought a boatload of Bayraktars recently and it's said the last two Turkish Air Force flights into Kyev a week or so ago were delivering Bayraktars and/or more spares and probably more MAM-C/MAM-L missiles.

 

[rietrot]

And now Ukraine have asked to join the EU quickly.. why? So they can join NATO in a hope that they will intervene. Russia will now go full balls to wall in a hope to try and end this quickly before they can be accepted in. Madness

Lol EU about to tell them to keep quiet and just be a happy little proxy.

 

[ShaunSA]

You know you are on the wrong side when Switzerland sides against you.

The Swiss can hardly call the moral high ground on anything

 

[2023]

And now Ukraine have asked to join the EU quickly.. why? So they can join NATO in a hope that they will intervene. Russia will now go full balls to wall in a hope to try and end this quickly before they can be accepted in. Madness

Will they be accepted during war though? That is a dangerous game to drag the rest of the EU into right now

 

[2023]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498291985748271111

The Russians really don't seem to have learnt from Chechnya or Afghanistan.

Never fails to amaze me the destruction modern arms can do

 

[rietrot]

You would think so, but it's quite apparent they don't have the air superiority that is really required. There's also the issue that Russia doesn't have any Bayraktars.



Fortunately they had just bought a boatload of Bayraktars recently and it's said the last two Turkish Air Force flights into Kyev a week or so ago were delivering Bayraktars and/or more spares and probably more MAM-C/MAM-L missiles.

It's only apparent on Twitter and not in the real world.

 

[Dave]

Will they be accepted during war though? That is a dangerous game to drag the rest of the EU into right now

I would say they have about the same chance as Belorussian does at present.

 

[Mirai]

It is disinformation. I posted a gruesome video of a friendly fire incident in which Ukrainian soldiers hit one of their own convoys and then went about stripping the bodies. No one knows WTF is potting, but everyone is posting everything as Russian losses. Propaganda is how you win minds and wars apparently on Twitter and MyBB.

There are actual NATO officers who give non-English interviews about this. But they are saying that essentially the Ukrainians have got the economy of war under control for the moment. The basic principle is that you can't defend everything well. So they focus, very well on what they need to do. The same guy called out reports of a Russian soldier saying two of his units were wiped out by Azov battalion guys and he basically says there is a lot of propaganda out there. So a very pragmatic senior guy.

 

[ShaunSA]

Wow, even FIFA is getting involved? What a crossover.

Like we forgot where they're hosting their world cup

 

[Wrath of Khan]

Will they be accepted during war though? That is a dangerous game to drag the rest of the EU into right now

I don't really think so.. but what does Putin think?
The west is just letting their old enemies destroy themselves or at least weaken themselves badly.. when this is all done, Ukraine will be stuffed so NATO will accept them and build new bases inside their country saying, "its to protect them so it never happens again" and the world will cheer.. and Russia will be like, I told you so these bastards are now on our entire border! So who wins? NATO...the West

 

[Mirai]

It is disinformation. I posted a gruesome video of a friendly fire incident in which Ukrainian soldiers hit one of their own convoys and then went about stripping the bodies. No one knows WTF is potting, but everyone is posting everything as Russian losses. Propaganda is how you win minds and wars apparently on Twitter and MyBB.

Norrad stick to boerewors. All your analysis is Hollywood BS.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

You know you are on the wrong side when Switzerland sides against you.

Russia certainly has caused itself a world of heartache and pain with this ........

I would imagine that when the Berlin wall went up, the world was probably asking what the hell they were thinking. Certainly the images of families being split, of people getting shot as they tried to go to West Germany and the stark contrasts of East vs West conditions - these must be in the minds of older Russian folk?

I suppose we will find out in the coming days, but I cant see the general global anti Russia sentiment blowing over too quickly.

Of course, we know very little about whats actually going on in Russia - other than what the media tells us. Be interesting to see what the sentiment is like over there. Russian parents must be worried about their kids. Russians in general must be feeling the pinch, and I wonder if they believe this is all worth it, considering Putin has made it clear, he has no intention of occupation.

 

[Dave]

It's only apparent on Twitter and not in the real world.

And how do you figure that? Where are all the Russian videos showing helicopters flying around over Kharkiv or Kyev? The last helicopters seen flying in the area were the poor sods who got dropped at Hostomal airfield and then left to their fate without any resupply,

Where are the Russian jets flying CAS to support their troops and tanks?

 

[Unhappy438]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498316828128563204

More Russian hardware that's been taken out.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Anyone watching the UN Emergency Special Sitting?

 

[rietrot]

And how do you figure that? Where are all the Russian videos showing helicopters flying around over Kharkiv or Kyev? The last helicopters seen flying in the area were the poor sods who go dropped at Hostomal airfield and then left to their fate without any resupply,

Where are the Russian jets flying CAS to support their troops and tanks?

Russia has not once posted videos of its troop movements as far as I know, but the news tell me they did invade.

Hard to believe without video evidence of Russian helicopters. Maybe they're all shot down. Lol

 

[Dave]

Never fails to amaze me the destruction modern arms can do

I suspect the supply truck behind the armoured vehicle was carrying ammunition which the ATGM hit and caused to explode.

 

[Dave]

Hard to believe without video evidence of Russian helicopters. Maybe they're all shot down. Lol

I doubt it, but they are taking extreme precautions not to fly anywhere a stinger can reach out and swat them.

 

[RedViking]

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How about you just take it off the air !

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