US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Fulcrum29]

Hopefully this is over before the citrus harvest seeing as A LOT goes directly to Russia.

Yep, huge market, I worked in agriculture marketing in 2008/2009. Apples, pears and grapes.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Only Putin supporters call it a CIA backed coup. It is literal Russian propaganda as well.

You also ignore that there was an election in 2019, to which Zelensky was elected as President.

Perhaps you don't realise how a useful Russian propagandist you are.

Oh how the pages of history will paint you so wrong. The balance of power is shifting, welcome.

 

[The Trutherizer]

They must light up Parliament in the Ukrainian colours.

Nah. That would not be very democratic.
They would effectively be making a statement on behalf of the entire South Africa then.
We'd never hear the end of something like that.
Of course getting such consideration in return...

I wonder if Putin has called the ANC with orders to get their peasants in the Western Cape under control yet.

 

[yebocan]

Nah. That would not be very democratic.
They would effectively be making a statement on behalf of the entire South Africa then.
We'd never hear the end of something like that.
Of course getting such consideration in return...

I wonder if Putin has called the ANC with orders to get their peasants in the Western Cape under control yet.

Russia just reminded SA that it helped fight apartheid in celebrating 30 years of relations | Businessinsider

Russia, in acknowledging 30 years of diplomatic relations with South Africa, says that its support for the liberation struggle shouldn’t be forgotten.

www.businessinsider.co.za

 

[Wut]

Hopefully this is over before the citrus harvest seeing as A LOT goes directly to Russia.

I thought most of our farmers were there already

 

[Nicodeamus]

Only Putin supporters call it a CIA backed coup. It is literal Russian propaganda as well.

You also ignore that there was an election in 2019, to which Zelensky was elected as President.

Perhaps you don't realise how a useful Russian propagandist you are.

no it was a coup d'état, full blown CIA Supported.
Here is the transcript of the famous "**** the eu" phone call,

Jonathan Marcus: The US says that it is working with all sides in the crisis to reach a peaceful solution, noting that "ultimately it is up to the Ukrainian people to decide their future". However this transcript suggests that the US has very clear ideas about what the outcome should be and is striving to achieve these goals. Russian spokesmen have insisted that the US is meddling in Ukraine's affairs - no more than Moscow, the cynic might say - but Washington clearly has its own game-plan. The clear purpose in leaking this conversation is to embarrass Washington and for audiences susceptible to Moscow's message to portray the US as interfering in Ukraine's domestic affairs

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call

A transcript of the alleged conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussing the crisis in Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt seen handing out cookies just "before the revolution",

a good video on the highly trained snipers on the Maiden Revolution

The US used highly trained snipers to instigate the violence.

The False Flag Kiev Sniper Massacre: The Hidden Origin of the Escalating Ukraine Conflict

It all started with massacring 49 of their own

anti-empire.com

In contrast, there is evidence of the involvement of Maidan leaders, the far-right, and foreign snipers in the massacre of the police and the protesters. Several Maidan leaders and activists provided testimonies, while 14 self-admitted members of the Maidan sniper units admitted in media interviews and to the Maidan massacre trial that they themselves or other Maidan snipers shot at the police and protesters.

Several former members of the Georgian military testified that they and other groups of Maidan snipers in the Hotel Ukraina and the Music Conservatory were ordered by specific Maidan leaders and ex-Georgian leaders to fire on police and protesters and that they witnessed the massacre. What’s more, a retired Georgian officer also claimed that Georgian snipers linked to Mikheil Saakashvili, ex-president of Georgia, and senior members of his party and the government were involved in the Maidan massacre. The prosecution and the Maidan victims’ lawyers claimed that these Georgians were “actors” even though their identities are confirmed by various evidence, such as documents by the Ukrainian, Armenian, Belarusian, and Georgian authorities (a video testimony of one of them was recently admitted as evidence and shown at the Maidan massacre trial).

Two leaders of the far-right Svoboda party also stated in separate interviews that a Western government representative told them and other Maidan leaders a few weeks before the massacre that Western governments would stop recognizing Yanukovych after casualties among protesters reached 100. Such specific conditionality created incentives to “sacrifice” protesters and attribute their killing to government forces. The slain protesters were called the “heavenly hundred” even after the official investigation confirmed that 49 protesters died on that day. Immediately after the massacre, Western governments blamed the Yanukovych government and his forces for the mass killing and recognized the new Maidan government.

On Zelensky, he is largely a media made cult of personality with lots of foreign money, not to mention that he won an election by banning the opposition press and running of an ultra nationalist playbook. For the last 8 years he has been shelling the Russian speaking minority,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498251662774865922

this one is my favourite though,

Who is Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky? Ex-Comedian Once Played the Piano with his Penis During a Performance

Volodymyr Zelensky was one of Ukraine's most popular TV comedians, who starred in a satirical TV show called 'Servant of the People.'

www.ibtimes.sg

Zelensky, in his comedy troupe performances, and in the plotlines of Servant of the People often took a dig at the corruption and tried to portray what the country would look like if given a shot at democracy. During one of his performances in his comedy troupe, Zelensky played the piano with his penis for a few minutes.

 

[Cray]

One has to wonder if invasions are morally worse than genocide. Do any of the morality police have an opinion on this?

What genocide are we talking about?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498342341521854476

Someone posted a tweet questioning why it seems like when it is seemingly white lives are in danger that reactions are swift and decisive. It's not hard to understand why these narratives form.

Yeah FIFA are sh*tty no doubt, there was talk of teams boycotting the World Cup in Qatar but that was never going to happen. Just like the Winter Olympics...

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

It's not like it has not happened before.

But I see. We are ok with Nazis (even going so far as changing the definition of it) when they are "on the same side", and even downplaying their hateful ideology or actions.

You need put more effort into condemning Russia`s actions instead of trying to make it seem logical because you see Nazis everywhere. The Nazi angle in terms of this war is nothing but Putin propaganda for justifying his murderous ways. Enough about Nazis, Putin is not invading to get rid of Nazis.

 

[Fulcrum29]

The man got skill,

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

There is rumours starting to circulate that a convoy of Israelis fleeing the Ukraine was hit by something.

That would be terrible as it would only be women, children and the elderly.
Men 18-60 cant leave.

 

[Nicodeamus]

The man got skill,

Reagan called the contras "the moral equal of our founding fathers",

would Zelensky be " the Mozart of the Ukraine"

 

[Fulcrum29]

That would be terrible as it would only be women, children and the elderly.
Men 18-60 cant leave.

Ukrainian men, that are citizens, aged 18-60 can't leave.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Ukrainian men, that are citizens, aged 18-60 can't leave.

It would still be terrible, even if they were dual citizens.
In any age bracket.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Shell also announced their Gazprom exit.

 

[Gyre]

One has to wonder if invasions are morally worse than genocide. Do any of the morality police have an opinion on this?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498342341521854476

Someone posted a tweet questioning why it seems like when it is seemingly white lives are in danger that reactions are swift and decisive. It's not hard to understand why these narratives form.

Maybe because they're in Europe and they're neighbors?

Also, what kind of question is that? Both result in murder.

 

[thestaggy]

A thread.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497609615151800323

Hero stories popping up is no surprise at all. Just about every army in every major war throughout human history has done that. Propaganda is a huge component of warfare and it goes hand-in-hand with morale. No leader/government wants to show their people images of them getting their arses kicked.

Even Winston Churchill became a caricature of himself because that is what the nation needed to rally around.

The 300 Spartans at Thermopylae were actually an alliance of ~7,000 men from all over Greece and the ''1 million Persians'' was more like ~300,000, with low estimates putting them at ~100,000.

Everybody loves a good hero story.

 

[daveza]

They must light up Parliament in the Ukrainian colours.

Burnt yellow and blue ?

 

[saturnz]

Shell also announced their Gazprom exit.

oil company hypocrisy at its finest

 

[BBSA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498363261351301129

 

[daveza]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498325655620136960

This isn't the Wale St building....