US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Nicodeamus

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Another of your hilariously dubious websites.... :ROFL: There is an awful lot of accusations in that piece and very little hard evidence.
those "accusation's have been confirmed by historians like Stephen Cohen and guys like Chomsky, are they also russian puppets? It was a coup d'état.

Any doubts about the Obama administration’s real intentions in Ukraine should have been dispelled by the recently revealed taped conversation between a top State Department official, Victoria Nuland, and the US ambassador in Kiev. The media predictably focused on the source of the “leak” and on Nuland’s verbal “gaffe”—“**** the EU.” But the essential revelation was that high-level US officials were plotting to “midwife” a new, anti-Russian Ukrainian government by ousting or neutralizing its democratically elected president—that is, a coup.


And of course, once again fail to recognize the election in 2019.

that election was trumped up with foreign donner money and opposition media was banned.
on zelensky's cult of personality,

 

rambo919

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This is not about you, or your predilection for nonsense buttercup. I am posting in repsonse to your rants about the "MSM" that seem utterly ignorant of Sinclair while calling anything that isn't alt-right totally corrupt.

I know that evidence is an iffy concept for you but watch the video and maybe learn something?
I don't know how you could think your flimsy strawmen could get a rise out of me.... as you were.
 

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On the other side of this ridiculousness you have people like me who are not taking sides at all but due to the bourdon of proof admit that both sides are bad but Ukraine was stupid and is now paying the price. Ukraine all by itself created the circumstances that led to this conflict.... no one forced them to do that. It is not the snow white innocent girl being stalked by the rapist people try to make it out to be. This is not taking Russia's side.... it's admitting the truth.
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I will state this again for those truly handicapped..... I don't support Putin, you think I do because I don't religiously believe whatever progresivism tells me to believe and currently progresivism tells you he is Hitler.
Glibly repeating the Russian line in this whole mess, but yeah, you don't support Putin. :X3:
 

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I get that you think you are not taking sides, but what you are doing is akin to blaming a woman for being raped because she wore a short skirt.
No this is what I am doing.

A rapist and a murderer end up in the same cell and start to fight over the bed.... I am just pointing out how the rapist taunted the murderer beforehand.
 

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From yesterday the Russian military has been indiscrimitaly bombing a city populated by ethnic Russians. That square with the recruiting station was a big vocal point for pro-Russian demonstrations recently and now it may be a recruitment station to fight Russians.
If you say so. What does that have to do with me posting information that it was a Ukrainian recruitment post.
 

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As jy kak soek, gaan jy kak kry.

Many guys over here have never seen a bar fight occur. It always starts with a wingat laaitjie that is trying to be to big for his shoes.

Human rights don't help you the moment that you're being dondered.
Your posts are drenched in neo fascist justifications.
 

rambo919

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Interesting how the word "religiously" continues popping up in your posts.

There is some psychology behind that
No, when dealing with hypnotized leftists it's simply a statement of fact.
 

Nicodeamus

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Your posts are drenched in neo fascist justifications.

I am asking for ukraine to be neutral and demilitarised and that is neo fascist?
You cannot even get to the point to admit that the USA instigated a coup d'état despite is being evident.

What did fascists do? They planned and executed wars. They put weapons in strategic places, they defended puppet regimes. That is what you're doing.
 

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On the other side of this ridiculousness you have people like me who are not taking sides at all but due to the bourdon of proof admit that both sides are bad but Ukraine was stupid and is now paying the price. Ukraine all by itself created the circumstances that led to this conflict.... no one forced them to do that. It is not the snow white innocent girl being stalked by the rapist people try to make it out to be. This is not taking Russia's side.... it's admitting the truth.
bourdon bourbon :sneaky:
 

buka001

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The US role in the Iranian coup was denied for almost 50 years as was their involvement in Argentina,

look at the snipers at the maiden square, clearly CIA trained, they instigated it out in the open.

Stephen Cohen who was the prominent US Russian historian called it a coup d'état as did almost anyone who objectively studied the situation.

The guys calling it a "peaceful" revolution have to be insane. Foreign trained snipers from the georgian war launching a peaceful revolution in ukraine with US weapons? seriously?
How are the snipers "clearly CIA trained"?

Can you detail this clarity?
 

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Have to hand it to Putin. He has managed to achieve what the Americans have not been able to achieve for decades. Germany increasing their contribution to NATO. Heck, even the Green’s in Germany are behind NATO now and increasing Germany’s defence spending. And the Green’s have changed their attitude to Germany’s nuclear power. Even Turkey are now changing their stance.

On Saturday, the post-cold-war era officially ended. Europe and especially Germany have now accepted that it’s not possible to deal with Russia as a normal trading partner.

#coldwar2.0
 

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If you say so. What does that have to do with me posting information that it was a Ukrainian recruitment post.
Absolutely everything. Russia needed the goodwill of the ethnic Russian population for this invasion to work. Unfortunately for them they don't have it referring to the recruitment station and excalating to cluster bombing civilian areas is not helping. I have no issue with that warhead which was probably targetted at the government building except that it missed. I have a huge problem with cluster bombs in civilian areas due to their indiscriminate nature.

This probably the best explanation of what Russia is currently doing.
 
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