US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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DreamKing

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how many russian soldiers were killed today according to ukrainian twitter accounts?
 

PrimeSteak

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Ok, so...

1. I would think twice before citing Grayzone as a source:
In March 2020, the English Wikipedia formally deprecated the use of The Grayzone as a source for facts in its articles, citing issues with the website's factual reliability.

Even Wikipedia doesn't want to get near this ****.

2. Svoboda Party did play a big role in 2014, yes, but...
It played a major role in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and Euromaidan protests but its support dropped quickly following the 2014 elections. Since then, Svoboda has been polled below the electoral threshold, and it currently has one seat in the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian Parliament
Not exactly an overwhelmingly popular movement... If I remember correctly, from one of my other posts about the Svoboda party they even lost their only seat eventually?

3. The Azov political party failed to get even a single seat in Parliament in 2019, actually formed a coalition with other far-right parties to no avail.
During its campaign for the 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election, the party formed a united radical right nationwide-party list with the Governmental Initiative of Yarosh, the Right Sector, and Svoboda.[6] This coalition won a combined 2.15% of the nationwide electoral list vote but ultimately failed to win any seat in the Verkhovna Rada.[7]

Let's make an estimate of the neo-Nazi support using some of the stats you showed (with a pinch of salt anyway):

3000 part of Azov Battalion, then add 315,530 to those who voted for far-right parties in 2019. That's around 318,530. But let's round it up more for good measure, making it about 330,000 (accounting for the other groups you mentioned) that we know of that have neo-Nazi tendencies.

Out of a population of 41.2 million, 330,000 fit the Nazi bill. So only around 0.8% of the population truly are confirmed Nazis then.
 

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The more Russia and Russians will be isolated.
Not as much as you think I think......

Everyone knows they are being hypocrites and punishing Russia for things they let murica and Israel get away with..... and they need Russian energy more than Russia needs their markets.

If the world isolates Russia it simply creates an internal BRICS market and carries on as usual while other energy and grain suppliers gain prominence that Russia once had in the western market.
 

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Alleged destroyed armoured personnel carrier BTR-4E of the Ukrainian army in the Kharkiv region. No date.

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He is making valid points.
It's a bit misleading though. For example, at the beginning of the video he says "Ukraine has about 6 billion dollars in their defense budget but that is one tenth of Russia's defense budget according to the latest data from Stockholm international peace research institute yet somehow Ukraine is still holding off the Russians from taking its major cities which is a major major accomplishment at this point now"

This may be true. However, it doesn't take into account all the foreign investment into Ukraine's military, both financially and in training etc. For example
The shipment is part of the additional $200 million of "lethal aid" approved by President Biden in late December and includes ammunition for Ukraine's front-line defenders, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv tweeted. Overall, the U.S. has provided $650 million in defense equipment and services to Ukraine in the past year — the most it has ever given that country, according to the State Department.


By way of background, the U.S. government has given between $270 million and $510 million of aid to Ukraine each year since 2014 (peaking at $513 million in obligations in 2016) for a total of $1.96 billion in military and economic assistance between 2014 and 2018.
The European Union has given, on average, over $710 million (€650 million) per year to the country since 2014—almost twice as much as the United States average. The European Bank of Reconstruction and Development has given a similar amount ($3.8 billion (€3.5 billion) from 2014 to 2017), much of it taking the form of investments and loans rather than direct grants. Several other EU and NATO countries—most notably Germany, France, Canada, and the United Kingdom—have also given significant sums. Germany contributed a total of $860 million (€786 million) in disbursements between 2014 and 2017 (much of it toward higher education and post-emergency reconstruction), while the United Kingdom provided around $115 million (€105 million), principally in peace-building, conflict prevention, and public-sector policy management assistance. Canada alone disbursed close to $573 million (CAD 760 million) between 2014 and 2016.
In 2016, NATO established a Comprehensive Assistance Package as an umbrella for specific initiatives to improve Ukraine’s command and control capabilities, logistics, cyber defense, and demilitarization—among others—with several NATO nations driving each initiative. The United Kingdom, for example, has sent more than 1,300 soldiers to Ukraine since 2015 and trained some 10,000 Ukrainian troops. Germany has lead the Radioactive Waste Disposal Trust Fund, while Poland and Lithuania have hosted high-level seminars on countering hybrid warfare. Canada has sent 200 armed forces personnel to provide military training and has provided millions in non-lethal military equipment. The United States also contributes to this broader NATO effort, and the United States European Command has coordinated assistance from other European countries (including the United Kingdom and Poland) since 2014 to help synchronize military assistance efforts.
Anyone who thinks this is a war between Russia and Ukraine isn't paying attention. Ukraine is the unfortunate battleground and shield to the West.
 

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The war didn't start with this attack on Ukraine. It's only now that Russia is the aggressor everyone is paying attention.
I'm assuming you are referring to Donetsk and Luhansk.
Out of curiosity though what's your view on the Chechen wars
Russia was in a similar situation as Ukraine is now
 

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Amid the intense ongoing military struggle between Russia and Ukraine, reports have emerged that Vladimir Putin is allegedly planning to get Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky assassinated. According to reports, as many as 400 Russian mercenaries have been flown in from Africa to target President Zelensky and his entire cabinet.

If or when this happens many more people are going to hate Putin.
 
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