US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[konfab]

The Russian language is protected under section 10 of the Ukrainian constitution. No one banned anything.

Then make war against those militias. Will you agree with Russia invading South Africa because of the AWB?

Not correct.

The measure, announced in October 2019 by the then Minister of Education and Science of Ukraine Hanna Novosad,[3] is underpinned by legislation on education and language that was enacted by the Ukrainian parliament within the previous four years. The new Law of Ukraine “On education” (hereinafter “the Law”) was the first to declare Ukrainian as the only means of instruction in schools after the primary division. Passed in 2017 and heavily disputed because of its Article 7, “The Language of Education,”[4] the law was recognized by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine on 16 July 2019. On the same day, the Law of Ukraine “On ensuring the functioning of Ukrainian as the state language” took effect and restated the priority of the Ukrainian language in education, guaranteeing minorities instruction in their native language only in preschools and primary schools.[5] The respective provisions of the 2017 Law are also specified in Article 5 of the recently passed Law of Ukraine “On complete general secondary education,” which came into force in March 2020

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Russians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians who attend Russian-language secondary schools. For them, Ukrainian-language instruction should be at a minimum of eighty percent in both middle and high schools, with the opportunity to have Russian taught as a subject or elective. The Law also clearly states that these provisions apply to state-funded schools only and entitles all private schools to a free choice of their language of instruction; nevertheless, private schools must teach the Ukrainian language and ensure that their students acquire the fluency standard defined by the state.

https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2020/0...o-ukrainian-language-instruction-a-challenge/

This is the type of preventable B.S that only causes trouble. The correct people to determine what language a school should be in should be the people closest to the management of the school, and it should be based on the needs of children, not the demands of politicians. If the majority of kids are Russian, then the school should be Russian.

To give you an analogy. Imagine how much trouble would have been caused in SA if Afrikaans was labeled "the language of the oppressor" (like Russian is deemed in Ukraine), and was not an official language of the state?

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Let’s ban everything red, white and blue! Oh wait....
Ok, calm down Karen.

 

[ToxicBunny]

New law stokes Ukraine language tensions - France 24

New law stokes Ukraine language tensions

www.france24.com

Basic facts such as these seem to escape you

All these actions as well as the terrorising of the donbas population contributed to this invasion.

This isn't my idea of a "democracy".

Mind telling us what your idea of democracy is, and how you think Russia will provide said democracy to the downtrodden and tortured in Ukraine?

 

[thestaggy]

Is it legal to just seize assets from these people?
Will they remove Medvedev from his number 1 spot in tennis?
Mazepin won’t be allowed to race in F1?

This collective punishment seems discriminatory to me.

South Africa and South African athletes were excluded from international events over apartheid.

Your thoughts on that?

The objective - as much as it sucks for the regular Russian person - is to turn public opinion against Putin/the government in the hope that it will get them to back down and change their position.

 

[Grant]

You can't trust MSM, man.

Here are some links from youtubers with political bias and the completely unaccountable 4chan instead.

A fool would blindly trust "MSM".
The best one can do is watch a number of outlets and form your own conclusion

 

[LCBXX]

The CNN ones were fake though this time.

Poor CNN. Such victims.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Mind telling us what your idea of democracy is, and how you think Russia will provide said democracy to the downtrodden and tortured in Ukraine?

If you actually read what I wrote here as opposed to reading what you want to read them you would see that I argued that Ukraine should look towards Finland, Austria or Sweden.

Ie be part of the EU, but not Nato. That is what Minsk II called for.

 

[greg0205]

I nearly climbed in myself with the BBC bit, but it's not worth it. People believe what they want.

Don't generally watch BBC news. The BBC is for Peaky Blinders... That said, Ros Atkins' twitter explainers are just fantastic.

 

[berrypi]

simply love how everyone has become war specialists...

bottom line.. you all should sit this one out... do your work... get off the forum....

Lastly, this whole F#Kng thing smacks of double standards... no sympathy for other countries who has been illegitimately attacked and invaded... but, nothing..... dont be a hypocrite and douchebag... go braai that wors....

 

[Grant]

/spits

I'd rather watch the blank screen with the TV turned off.

Spitters are quitters

 

[Spizz]

Poor CNN. Such victims.

Apparently so if people like you just soak up the fake news that suits their narrative.

 

[GreatWmR]

That's because they are in the Middle, neither East nor West.

 

[Blu82]

So it was fake then. No one died...?
Remember when there was a big story about how they were all heroes...

I can't comment how many died though a MIA tag instead of a KIA tag during the initial reporting might have been handy. I will give Ukraine this their propaganda is way better than Russia's. The island, the ghost, give me bullets handily beats we are not targeting civilians or there are currently no casualties

 

[ShaunSA]

Carl Niehaus will simply unleash his Nkandla battle group again

Unless Edward and his stick get there first

 

[Spizz]

If you actually read what I wrote here as opposed to reading what you want to read them you would see that I argued that Ukraine should look towards Finland, Austria or Sweden.

Ie be part of the EU, but not Nato. That is what Minsk II called for.

How about let it be part of what it's citizens want it to be?

 

[Grant]

Unless Edward and his stick get there first

Leave drunk Edward and his stick out of this

 

[ponder]

This collective punishment seems discriminatory to me.

That's how sanctions generally work, the same applied to SA back in the day.

 

[ToxicBunny]

If you actually read what I wrote here as opposed to reading what you want to read them you would see that I argued that Ukraine should look towards Finland, Austria or Sweden.

Ie be part of the EU, but not Nato. That is what Minsk II called for.

So how is that working out for you when Finland are considering joining NATO now?

But that still doesn't explain what you define as democracy, and how you think Russia can assist with that (through their current actions)

BTW, how is Minsk II even vaguely applicable when Russia pissed all over it themselves?

 

[Blu82]

If you actually read what I wrote here as opposed to reading what you want to read them you would see that I argued that Ukraine should look towards Finland, Austria or Sweden.

Ie be part of the EU, but not Nato. That is what Minsk II called for.

Some those listed countries are asking to join NATO and others are shipping weapons.

 

[dualmeister]

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