US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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rambo919

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The jury is still out on Russian II-76 planes that Ukraine claimed shot down which will be around a 100 soldiers per aircraft. The main reason this is still not fake news is that the US DoD confirmed it in one of their briefings and that those airborne assaults never got reinforced.
The problem with going in with kid gloves, it's much more dangerous to the assault force. A large loss of troops alone could lower morale so much Russia might be forced to go all in.

Would be nice to know for certain how things are really going on the ground but all you get is "we are winning" propaganda from both sides.
 

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More neo nazis in Ukraine than anywhere else in the world.
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rambo919

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Intentional murder of civilians and children. Causing hundreds of thousands of refugees. Just to start.
Intention has not been proven, causing refugees is not abnormal enough or harmful enough to be called a war crime.

International Criminal Court and Amnesty International are already investigating.

Of course, we need to go back to Syria, Chechnya, Georgia, etc, etc.
Yes, a corrupt cadre globalist kangaroo court gets to decide the fate of the anti-globalist (or so his projected persona is anyway).... politics will clearly not be involved in the verdict.

But, as I said, he will get off on the basis of diminished mental capacity.
Ur fantasizing.
 

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I would tend to agree as well, we're watching the start of his downfall... and it won't be in a slow whimper it seems.
Funny... was thinking the same.
I do wonder though... will he want to make a statement before he bows out if that's the direction he's headed.
 

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Fear mongering BS for clicks. Russia will not be launching any nukes.
I don't understand why everyone is like, oh someone is going to just let a nuke slip out.

The media really is trying hard to stir, where there is nothing TO stir.

Yes there are a few countries on earth that could wipe out humanity... But there has been plenty "disagreements" without this childlike mentality.

F*** man, can the sane adults just take the wheel for a moment.
 

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I think that is true of Northern Ukraine, not sure about the South. Don't forget though that Yanukovych was an elected leader, the at majority of Ukrainians voted for him over his opponent. He was overthrown by the West. Personally I'm all for the US crusades to spread liberal democracy around the world except for the fact they've been largely unsuccessful and ended up creating more, never ending conflict wherever they meddle. If they could successfully transform countries into liberal democracies that would be ideal, but so far they haven't succeeded anywhere.

Who is defending a dictator?

Ukraine's democracy , fair elections and freedom of speech are been improving a lot in the last 10 years since he was elected. Russia has always tried to influence elections and place someone agreeable to them in Uk and other countries ... even in the USA.

As long as a country has freedom and democracy of some level, there is a chance of getting better. Ukrainian indexes are going up slowly but surely, Russian ones are going hard bottom.

And what's with blaming everything political on America? How many ex EE countries joined EU and improved in every aspect of their lives? Why should Ukraine be denied the opportunity, because it has 17% Russian minority?

Half? the posts here are defending Putin's actions.
 
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Intention has not been proven, causing refugees is not abnormal enough or harmful enough to be called a war crime.

Dream on, Putin will spend the rest of his days in an asylum for the criminally insane.

He may choose the Hitler option, though.
 

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Intention has not been proven, causing refugees is not abnormal enough or harmful enough to be called a war crime.

Think I saw they're considering declaring the alleged use of carpet/cluster bombs in Kharkiv as a war crime now. Due to their indiscriminate targeting of a civilian area. Being indiscriminate amounts to intent/negligence as well.

Just putting that out there. Obviously no way to know facts at this stage other than distant footage shown.
 

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Think I saw they're considering declaring the alleged use of carpet/cluster bombs in Kharkiv as a war crime now. Due to their indiscriminate targeting of a civilian area. Being indiscriminate amounts to intent/negligence as well.

Just putting that out there. Obviously no way to know facts at this stage other than distant footage shown.
If that is a war crime, the everyone committed war crimes during WW2.
 
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