US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Please note who have I quoted.

Wonder if he even realises what he is implying here:
"In order to thwart informational attacks against Russia, [Russian forces] will strike technological objects of the SBU and the 72nd Main PSO Center in Kiev."

Hope all those Russian hackers in Moscow have bunkers in their apartments...
 

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Azov Battalion.
National guard.
Government.

The Azov Battalion is included within Ukraine's National Guard, and it is a voluntary regiment, which is based within the Azov Sea coastal region. To some extent, it does behave like the Spanish and French legions, but the Azov has a known ideology which also happens to lure Russians.

Since the Azov was expanded into being a regiment, they have been depoliticised, hence the military wing and their political wing are separated entities. You applied a wide brush there, splashing Ukraine in its entirety, as did the Russians.

So… The Azov political wing, how many seats do they have in the Ukrainian parliament, or rather asked, how many seats in total does the nominated Nationalists, by their views, have in the Ukrainian parliament?
 

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Cough cough... The RT-2PM2 Topol-M has a range of 11000km... It could help you cook your meat a bit faster and hotter :whistling:

The range on their ICBM is irrelevant if they have a ballistic sub chilling close to the coast already. :)
 
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a lot of idiots went to fight for them, that NZL mosque shooter also had some links. The point is, who is giving them money?

let's assume we really care about ukraine, wouldn't we force them not to have these guys in their country? As a start?
Ukraine decided to turn all volunteer battalions—both the Territorial Defence Battalions associated with the armed forces, and the Special Tasks Patrol Police of the interior ministry—into regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard, respectively. Azov is one of the latter. The Ukrainian government also opted to deploy only volunteer units to the Donbas front,[61] pledging that conscripts would not be sent into combat.
Volunteer battalions consist of people with a variety of backgrounds, and only part of them are former Euromaidan supporters. Some Russian-language eastern Ukrainians joined volunteer battalions to protect their own homes. Ukraine is a dynamic European country where its citizens have a wide spectrum of opinions, just as the volunteers’ ages and ethnicities vary. And while Azov battalion had a far-right commander in Andriy Biletsky, the leader of the Social-National Assembly and who gathered right-minded young people around him, there was also the Dnipro-1 battalion supported by Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who also headed the “United Jewish community of Ukraine”.

“Nazists” and “Fascists” are figures of hate speech that are widely used by Russian media to describe any Ukrainian army unit, in order to threaten Ukrainian and Russian public and justify terrorists. Right-wing civic movements are not perceived by Ukrainian society as a threat. Ukrainian far-right candidates failed in the last presidential elections, as the two such candidates’ total result was 1.86% of votes. In the same time, Eurosceptic nationalists scored stunning victories in European Parliament elections in France, Britain and other European countries.

So seems like all the groups that operated during Euromaidan was incorporated into the Ukrainian Army...

Almost like the SADF, APLA, IFP and MK merged to form the current SANDF (Army)
 

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Before diplomats walked out on Lavrov's pre-recorded video message, a minute of silence was held for the victims of fighting in Ukraine.

The walkout was led by Ukrainian Ambassador Yevheniia Filipenko, who told the crowd gathered around the large Ukrainian flag outside the chamber: 'Thank you very much for this wonderful show of support to Ukrainians who are fighting for their independence.'

'Any invasion constitutes a violation of human rights... massive violations and civilian losses,' French Ambassador Jerome Bonnafont said. 'It is important that the Human Rights Council shows with this walkout that it is united with Ukraine and with the people of Ukraine.'

The fresh walkout came less than an hour after diplomats all but emptied a nearby room at the UN's European headquarters in Geneva when Lavrov's video speech aired to the Conference on Disarmament, a body created in 1979 to try to stem the Cold War arms race.

Outside that chamber, diplomats also gathered in front of a Ukrainian flag and applauded loudly.

The applause could be heard in the chamber where Lavrov's speech continued, with only a handful of ambassadors from countries including Yemen, Syria, Venezuela and Tunisia there to hear it.
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So… The Azov political wing, how many seats do they have in the Ukrainian parliament, or rather asked, how many seats in total does the nominated Nationalists, by their views, have in the Ukrainian parliament?
zero my guy, they have zero seats in Parliament...

 

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So seems like all the groups that operated during Euromaidan was incorporated into the Ukrainian Army...

Almost like the SADF, APLA, IFP and MK merged to form the current SANDF (Army)

look I don't expect people from that part of the world to not be hardened by war and had some kind of nationalists attitude, but ukraine does have a nazi issue.


but read that article a bit and see the type of characters.

 

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zero my guy, they have zero seats in Parliament...


No you don't say... that can't be...

Ukraine is a Nazi state! Vlad said so.
 

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Phew! Thank Fok! Wanted to braai the weekend! :whistling:
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