US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Mirai

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Is an expression of solidarity with people fighting for their lives really something that you find worthy of ridicule?

He may have a totalitarian bend. Putin stronk and here some kids stage a peaceful protest.

Other day (monday) parts of Groote Schuur Hospital were closed because of a protest. That affected patients and staff and made service delivery harder. He won't complain about that.
 

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China thanks EU sanctions, Russian banks turn to Cips​


  • The Western countries' ousting of Swift has led Moscow to seek shelter elsewhere. After being blocked from the interbank messaging system, Russian banks have moved to the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS).
    Developed by China - the Kremlin's main partner - in 2015, the CIPS payments system is mainly used to settle international credits in yuan and trade related to the Belt and Road Initiative, positioning itself as an alternative system to the traditional Swift created in 1973 although it is not yet fully independent of it.
    A system, CIPS allows global banks to conduct cross-border transactions directly in yuan onshore, rather than through clearing banks in offshore hubs, and aims to make Beijing's currency a fully-fledged global reserve currency.
    https://za.investing.com/news/china-thanks-eu-sanctions-russian-banks-turn-to-cips-2514372
What China/Russia and fans think...

What the West thinks...
 

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Yes like sending law enforcement into a crime ridden neighbourhood will cause some shooting between cops and robbers.

You forget that people of Eastern Europe WANTED to join NATO. The same people who already lived under the Warsaw Pact wanted NATO.

You Nico and the clown who made that tweet never lived under Warsaw Pact. You have no right to judge this because you don't know and you simply don't want to find out. Your chauvinism blinds you. You think Eastern Europeans are stupid. Like for Hitler, for you they are untermenschen and they should not be in NATO but be serfs to Russians because Russians defecate gold bars and their flatus smells like Channel No 5.

You must be paid a lot for this shilling.
I don't think he knows what Orwellian means. Or he is just embarrassing him self.

 

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Is an expression of solidarity with people fighting for their lives really something that you find worthy of ridicule?

The students demanded intervention. I am focusing on that demand, not their display of solidarity.
 

Nicodeamus

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Still banging this fscking stupid drum of yours?

Do yourself a favour and for a change just listen to the journalist.

gain of function research took place in Ukraine,

it doesn't justify Russia's actions, but it added fuel to the fire. There were a few BSL4 labs in Ukraine and they have been attacked recently,
 

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https://odysee.com/Dilyana-Gaytandz...e8bc39e0d5b5cb7aa133a5355cfc7c0a05e?src=embed @Mirai @buka001

serious question, does this woman sound authentic to you? on the biological warfare weapons being used in the area.

Can you summarise what she says and explain in detail?

If there is a problem, Russia being in the Sec'y Council can raise these issues officially.

Other areas they can be raised are: OSCE and Council of Europe.

If atrocities occur, they can be investigated. Germany discovered the Katyn atrocity which USSR perpetrated. They brought captive Polish and Allied officials, Red Cross officials and other neutral parties and performed a scientific study proving USSR did it. It was of course for show because the Germans had little love for the victims but they wanted to help the West/East alliance to break up. Still that was assessed as credible.

So even hostile nations and Russia is not a hostile nation to the US/West can bring evidence and demand to know what's going on. This would not need some activist to post a social media video. Russia has huge resources and can investigate such matters with the help of the OSCE, UN, third parties, Council of Europe etc.
 

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Do yourself a favour and for a change just listen to the journalist.

gain of function research took place in Ukraine,

it doesn't justify Russia's actions, but it added fuel to the fire. There were a few BSL4 labs in Ukraine and they have been attacked recently,

There were? Mind linking to them specifically?
 

Mirai

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You comitted the original sin of myBB.... assuming a longer than 5min attention span.

Has a UN resolution followed as a result? If not, why not. Surely with 2 PERMANENT Security Council members....
 

Mirai

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Why do people keep bringing up the UN as if they actually matter?

Because it does. Because its a platform which can't be ignored. And if Russia puts credible evidence which is obviously true then the West can't ignore it and has to account for it.

Don't be disingenuous.

The UN matters. Definitely on matters the 5 powers agree on, definite change happens.
At the very least a platform is given and investigations can follow.
 

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rambo919

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Because it does. Because its a platform which can't be ignored. And if Russia puts credible evidence which is obviously true then the West can't ignore it and has to account for it.

Don't be disingenuous.
I am being completely honest.

The UN is highly corrupt, toothless and generally useless.

It's where countries to go to have myBB level "debates" where popularity contests decide what gets done.
 
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