US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Aquila ka Hecate]

I can come to no other conclusion that the destruction of SA is on purpose.... only they are frustrated it's not happening faster and trying to rush it.

Same for murica, both countries are being forcibly dismantled from the top down.

Honestly?
I think it was always going to happen.
Humankind and their wants/needs cannot sustain the way we live now.
I can only hope the decline worldwide accelerates and is over sooner rather than later.

 

[rvZA]

I can come to no other conclusion that the destruction of SA is on purpose.... only they are frustrated it's not happening faster and trying to rush it.

Same for murica, both countries are being forcibly dismantled from the top down.

I have been saying for many years, even just recently, that the destruction of South Africa was being done on purpose. No sane person running a country would ever allow what happened in SA the past 30 years. There has always been a plan in place and it took a long time to execute it. The biggest public confirmation came in 2020 when NDZ publicly admitted that Covid virus must be used to kill off the middle-class in South Africa in order to do away with 'inequality'. The whole parliament supported her 100% after the backlash.

Biden, on the other hand wasted no time. Simply opened US borders allowing millions of immigrants to flood the country. He went so far, he actually helps resettling them with secret planes and busses at the dead of night. He closed one of the biggest gas pipelines in the country, leaving tens of thousands unemployed and making the US totally dependent on external oil providers. He caused the highest inflation ever seen by the modern world. He supported movements like BLM, Antifa, defund the police to continue lawlessness in the country and esuring his presidency. The US now has the highest crime rates in the world and the highest in its own existence. They even have DA's across the country that no longer will prosecute most crimes, including violent crimes like armed robbery, assaults and more. He got the US population dependend on grant payments. He sowed division in the country between white and black and supported things like CRT to grow the division. There are many more....

One has to be blind not to see what is happening in the US at this point in time.

 

[thestaggy]

so most of Asia isnt enough for the greedy Russians?
why the Ukraine? or is it similar to How Germany wanted Austria in between the Wars.

1 - Ukraine falls within territory Putin himself has called 'historical Russia'. Ukraine fell within the borders of both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union and Russia is basically trying to reclaim those lost territories. The more Russians/Russian speakers you have in your territory, the more Russia wants it.

2 - Ukraine is known as the 'breadbasket of Europe'. It is estimated that Ukrainian crops can feed 600 million people. It is also mineral-rich. These are the same reasons why Hitler wanted it, to feed and supply his German Reich.

3 - If Russia cannot annex territory, it would like to have buffer states between itself and NATO/Western Europe. Poland and specifically East Germany served this purpose during the Cold War. Ukraine is the easiest way to invade Russia because it is open and flat. Another reason why Nazi Germany focused its main assault through Ukraine when it invaded the USSR, it is great tank country. It also puts missiles closer to Russia if Ukraine joined NATO. Russia would much rather occupy Ukraine or at the very least have it in its own sphere of influence due to the vulnerability a NATO-aligned Ukraine causes.

 

[rambo919]

Honestly?
I think it was always going to happen.
Humankind and their wants/needs cannot sustain the way we live now.
I can only hope the decline worldwide accelerates and is over sooner rather than later.

There is nothing natural about the decline we can see currently, something is accelerating it, the only thing left to argue about is what it is.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

It isn't though. In their election before last there was ample evidence of Russia getting a hook in their elections through social media however. A phenomenon the world has not quite gotten to grips with. For all that it is just the same old thing, but over a medium that turbo charges it.
Historically that kind of influence has flowed from the US to less developed nations. From Russia as well. Which is by no means a wonderful thing. Yet is nothing new in the world.
The stakes are quite a bit higher when one nuclear super power does it to another nuclear super power though.
I can't help but feel it was super unwise. Cutting to the heart like that.

Yeah so the thing is, while I do not claim that it is fictional or impossible I personally find it dumbfounding that the Russians are responsible on every occasion for the failures of the US policy makers or for the outcome of their own (well-monitored) electoral affairs. First we get blasted about how the Russians helped the Republicans into power, then we get blasted about how they helped the Democrats into power.

As someone with family in the US, rv and yourself are not the first people that I have heard this rhetoric from. I find it utterly absurd to think that the Russians rule the US by proxy and regardless of popular consent, the levels of technological capability or general ability of the government officials to make a change to the situation.

It's all demonisation if you ask me, there will always be a need for an enemy. The less things make sense, the louder the propaganda will get until eventually the few people left asking real questions are drowned out by the roar of the common narrative that is to be achieved.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

I have been saying for many years, even just recently, that the destruction of South Africa was being done on purpose. No sane person running a country would ever allow what happened in SA the past 30 years. There has always been a plan in place and it took a long time to execute it. The biggest public confirmation came in 2020 when NDZ publicly admitted that Covid virus must be used to kill off the middle-class in South Africa in order to do away with 'inequality'. The whole parliament supported her 100% after the backlash.

Biden, on the other hand wasted no time. Simply opened US borders allowing millions of immigrants to flood the country. He went so far, he actually helps resettling them with secret planes and busses at the dead of night. He closed one of the biggest gas pipelines in the country, leaving tens of thousands unemployed and making the US totally dependent on external oil providers. He caused the highest inflation ever seen by the modern world. He supported movements like BLM, Antifa, defund the police to continue lawlessness in the country and esuring his presidency. The US now has the highest crime rates in the world and the highest in its own existence. They even have DA's across the country that no longer will prosecute most crimes, including violent crimes like armed robbery, assaults and more. He got the US population dependend on grant payments. He sowed division in the country between white and black and supported things like CRT to grow the division. There are many more....

One has to be blind not to see what is happening in the US at this point in time.

so what next? the purge?
shooting Middle class Americans in the streets?

US is a big place, a lot more than ZA, and many different regions that could declare independence and break up the US once and for all,
bet you there wont be too many Mexicans trying to sneak over the border into TX when there is a Right to shoot to kill policy in effect.

but what happens now, everybody waiting for Russia to strike, and WW3 to break out and obliterate Ukraine into a wasteland.

 

[rambo919]

One has to be blind not to see what is happening in the US at this point in time.

Murica's big crime is being able to be independent, you cannot have a great reset with independent regions unwilling to follow orders.

Similarly SA's big crime historically is not failing, first the Brits crushed the republics when they refused to fail and became a regional rival.... the the entire world crushed the nationalists when SA refused to fail and became the giant of Africa.

The goal is clearly to create global equity and to do that you must root out all highest performers somehow.

 

[Unhappy438]

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783, when the Tsarist Empire annexed it a decade after defeating Ottoman forces in the Battle of Kozludzha, until 1954, when the Soviet government transferred Crimea from the Russian Soviet Federation of Socialist Republics (RSFSR) to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkrSSR).

Many countries were part of other countries in the past, that's a shite excuse for annexation.

 

[Emjay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495255255386365955

 

[rvZA]

so what next? the purge?
shooting Middle class Americans in the streets?

Not going to happen. Just like in SA, you simply collapse the economy. Raise taxes. Increase living costs. The rest plays itself out. No matter how big America is or how many people there are. They can and will suffer the same fate. It is currently happening right in front of us.

but what happens now, everybody waiting for Russia to strike, and WW3 to break out and obliterate Ukraine into a wasteland.

There will not be a war. Let alone a WW3. Russia and China ensured that over the years. They have split NATO. The UN is no longer an independend organization. There will not be support among countries to engage in any type of world war, as you have recently seen with Germany refusing to get involved with Nato and Russia. This is a power play and I simply see this as the new world leaders announcing themselves. China will be on the scene very soon with Taiwan as well. Although, I think China will invade and we will see future colonization too from them.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Murica's big crime is being able to be independent, you cannot have a great reset with independent regions unwilling to follow orders.

Similarly SA's big crime historically is not failing, first the Brits crushed the republics when they refused to fail and became a regional rival.... the the entire world crushed the nationalists when SA refused to fail and became the giant of Africa.

The goal is clearly to create global equity and to do that you must root out all highest performers somehow.

so a Utopia? or more like Communism on a global scale? is that what going to happen?
or until somebody has the balls to launch a nuke and the 30 min war will start and obliterate half of the world in one go.

 

[Wut]

Has this war started yet? 62 pages of Russia = bad, US = bad... It's colder than the Cold War...

 

[rambo919]

so a Utopia? or more like Communism on a global scale? is that what going to happen?
or until somebody has the balls to launch a nuke and the 30 min war will start and obliterate half of the world in one go.

What other than a Utopia can something as delusional as the Great Reset be?

There is no way they can sustainably do it.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

so what next? the purge?
shooting Middle class Americans in the streets?

US is a big place, a lot more than ZA, and many different regions that could declare independence and break up the US once and for all,
bet you there wont be too many Mexicans trying to sneak over the border into TX when there is a Right to shoot to kill policy in effect.

but what happens now, everybody waiting for Russia to strike, and WW3 to break out and obliterate Ukraine into a wasteland.

I believe that they are referring to economic destruction, a ruler will always need subjects to rule over

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

What other than a Utopia can something as delusional as the Great Reset be?

There is no way they can sustainably do it.

well if Nuclear winter happens and darkens the skies for Years,
no crops, means no food, means looting and plundering on an epic scale, then the famine and population decline,
diseases, and attrition will wipe out the rest,

wait a few years safely inside your Bunker, open the doors, and Voila,
utopia, population will be smaller, more manageable, free ideas and free thought wont exist,

its not actually that hard, just somebody has to make the first move and get the show on the road.

 

[Thor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495255255386365955

That sums it up well, this is CNN probably fueling -- their revenue dogged down after their golden goose left, Post Trump the media don't know what to do for views anymore, so manufacture a war seems apt.

 

[access]

That sums it up well, this is CNN probably fueling -- their revenue dogged down after their golden goose left, Post Trump the media don't know what to do for views anymore, so manufacture a war seems apt.

notice how the covid circus it out of the spotlight...

 

[Unhappy438]

That sums it up well, this is CNN probably fueling -- their revenue dogged down after their golden goose left, Post Trump the media don't know what to do for views anymore, so manufacture a war seems apt.

2003 Iraq called, this has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[Temujin]

That sums it up well, this is CNN probably fueling -- their revenue dogged down after their golden goose left, Post Trump the media don't know what to do for views anymore, so manufacture a war seems apt.

They need their war

They're busy starting another war to cover their asses and blame it all on that as 'rona' isn't working anymore... you have no groceries, mah war effort, $20 gas, mah war effort, market crash, mah war effort

 

[ForceFate]

I believe that they are referring to economic destruction, a ruler will always need subjects to rule over

Except Stalin never said that