US Election 2020 - Lame duck days

TysonRoux

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LOL, the Orange Snollygosters buffoons are getting wild, and the verkrampte MyBB Trumptards are besides themselves.

Pro-Trump attorney suggests Georgia GOP campaign staffer was murdered in post-election plot​

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One of the attorneys challenging President Donald Trump’s election loss suggested a Republican campaign staffer had been murdered in connection with the long-shot cases.

Attorney Lin Wood, whose lawsuit to block the certification of Georgia’s presidential election results was dismissed, suggested that Harrison Deal, a campaign staffer to Sen. Kelly Loeffler and a friend of Gov. Brian Kemp’s family, had died under suspicious circumstances.

“There are no coincidences,” Wood tweeted as part of a conversation with multiple low-follower accounts. “Everything is planned. When something does not make sense, search for truth. Every lie will be revealed.”

There are no coincidences. Everything is planned. When something does not make sense, search for truth. Every lie will be revealed. https://t.co/jP20J4feOA
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) December 7, 2020

The 20-year-old Deal was killed Saturday in a fiery car crash, but one of the Twitter users in contact with Wood claimed the University of Georgia junior’s death was linked to Kemp calling for a signature verification audit of the state’s mail-in ballots and the attorney seemed to agree.

The president wants Kemp to order the audit, but the Republican governor says only Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has that authority, and the fellow GOP official re-certified Trump’s election loss on Monday.

That audit cannot be performed as the president wants, because ballots are separated from the envelopes they’re mailed inside after they’re opened and the votes are counted.

Since the ballots cannot be traced back to those envelopes, judges would be forced to invalidate absentee ballots in any jurisdictions where they’re challenged.
 

The Trutherizer

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LOL, the Orange Snollygosters buffoons are getting wild, and the verkrampte MyBB Trumptards are besides themselves.

Pro-Trump attorney suggests Georgia GOP campaign staffer was murdered in post-election plot​

lin_wood4-768x423.jpg


One of the attorneys challenging President Donald Trump’s election loss suggested a Republican campaign staffer had been murdered in connection with the long-shot cases.

Attorney Lin Wood, whose lawsuit to block the certification of Georgia’s presidential election results was dismissed, suggested that Harrison Deal, a campaign staffer to Sen. Kelly Loeffler and a friend of Gov. Brian Kemp’s family, had died under suspicious circumstances.

“There are no coincidences,” Wood tweeted as part of a conversation with multiple low-follower accounts. “Everything is planned. When something does not make sense, search for truth. Every lie will be revealed.”



The 20-year-old Deal was killed Saturday in a fiery car crash, but one of the Twitter users in contact with Wood claimed the University of Georgia junior’s death was linked to Kemp calling for a signature verification audit of the state’s mail-in ballots and the attorney seemed to agree.

The president wants Kemp to order the audit, but the Republican governor says only Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has that authority, and the fellow GOP official re-certified Trump’s election loss on Monday.

That audit cannot be performed as the president wants, because ballots are separated from the envelopes they’re mailed inside after they’re opened and the votes are counted.

Since the ballots cannot be traced back to those envelopes, judges would be forced to invalidate absentee ballots in any jurisdictions where they’re challenged.
Is she now going to be the new Princess Di?
 

The Trutherizer

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That's why you're fabricating evidence of election fraud when Trump hasn't been able to win a single one of his ~50 court cases, simply because your delicate mind is incapable of believing that people simply didn't vote for him? Despite the fact that you clearly do realize that lots of people passionately hate Trump, somehow it's incomprehensible for you to believe that this visceral loathing could translate into real votes.

Next week the Electoral College will vote to make Biden the 46th president of the USA. Trump will vacate the White House in January and despite rumours about a 2024 run I think he will disappear from public consciousness because if he has no power nobody is interested in what he has to say anymore.
It's just a case of vomiting up Trump's cud. Trump of course is only in it for the donations. He's going to milk it for all that it's worth.
 

CaptainOblivious

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Within the first two minutes of the video, as well as the title of the video.
Jenna Ellis claims that the judge has granted them access to the voting machines to conduct a forensic audit. Crowder who constantly complains about the dishonesty of the msm, dishonesty says that dominion voting machines have been seized, in order to lend credence to the idea that dominion are guilty of foul play
Nothing in the video supports your pet interpretation. It seems you think you are disputing the idea that the machines have been seized? Like, do you actually think that a court order granting a forensic analysis isn't legally tantamount to a seizure?
 

Lucas Buck

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I don't often watch Crowder's content, but it seems you're the one being dishonest. In that clip, Crowder starts off by saying a judge has ruled allowing them to seize the dominion voting machines and then plays the clip of Jenna Ellis saying the judge granted them access. Seems like you're reaching to call him dishonest by nitpicking about the specific word he used.

The local sheriff tried to prevent General Flynn's forensics team from entering the Antrim County court house yesterday even though the court granted them access.

While the team was copying the voting machine hard drives, the Antrim County administrator tried to take pictures to dox forensic team.
It's not nitpicking, as a media person he knows the impact that certain words have. She clearly says granted access he chooses to add more gravity to her statement by replacing the phrase "grant access" with the word "seize", very msm of him.
 

buka001

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You mean this?
PA Supreme Court dismissed the case based upon state procedural bar (laches i.e. the court ruled it came too late). Kelly argues that this violates due process.

Suspending reality for a second, lets park the "due process" matter aside and look at his actual claim and why SCOTUS will rule the way they will.

Firstly SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over state court decisions that relied on what is known as "independent and adequate" state rules.

So, Kelly is arguing that Act 77 (brought into law by PA Republicans) violates the US constitution, because it violated PA Constitution, but the responsibility of determining if State Law violates a State Constitution is up to the Supreme Court of the State and not the SCOTUS.

The PA Supreme court already ruled on Act 77 and said it was constitutional. So no chance here.

Kelly also wants to invalidate all mail in voting, but to get that to SCOTUS he needs federal objections. He is very light on this.

So this is pretty much how it will go.
 

OrbitalDawn

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Where's @SoldierMan at?

Hey, pal... Remember this?

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Yeah?

Follow up question...



Is 330% a lot?

It sounds like a lot.

How about 95% between 2017 and 2019?






This seems less than optimal for such a dove-ish administration, SoldierMan.
Can't be. Xarog et al. were going on about how Trump is the biggest dove in decades.
 

Lucas Buck

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Nothing in the video supports your pet interpretation. It seems you think you are disputing the idea that the machines have been seized? Like, do you actually think that a court order granting a forensic analysis isn't legally tantamount to a seizure?
No it's not as they're not removing the equipment they'll be doing the audit at the county.
 

The Trutherizer

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‘A prodigious amount of losing’: Top legal reporter mocks Trump campaign’s record of humiliating defeat​

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The Trump campaign’s legal team and its allies have now lost 48 out 49 legal cases that they’ve presented before judges, good for a winning percentage of just over two percent.

The latest defeats came at the hands of judges in Michigan and Georgia, who both shot down motions by Sidney Powell, the Trump-loving attorney whose promise to “unleash the kraken” has so far resulted in a string of election defeats.

Reuters legal reporter Brad Heath, who has been dutifully following all of the lawsuits the Trump campaign and its allies have been bringing before the courts, wrote on Twitter Monday that he cannot recall seeing so much legal losing in such a short period of time.

“It’s a statistically anomalous number of losses,” he wrote, while mimicking the failed legal arguments used by the Trump campaign to claim “spikes” in reported votes for President-elect Joe Biden prove the election was stolen. “Nobody could actually lose that many lawsuits that rapidly. There was a sudden, unexplained Friday night “spike” in litigation losses, followed by another one Monday.”


He also added that “It is a prodigious amount of losing, truly.”
Dare we say it?

Will Trump join other notable one hit wonders such as Mambo No5, Tubthumping and the Macarena?
 

CaptainOblivious

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PA Supreme Court dismissed the case based upon state procedural bar (laches i.e. the court ruled it came too late). Kelly argues that this violates due process.
The states cannot create laws that violate federal laws, lol.

Suspending reality for a second, lets park the "due process" matter aside and look at his actual claim and why SCOTUS will rule the way they will.

Firstly SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over state court decisions that relied on what is known as "independent and adequate" state rules.
It does have jurisdiction if the 'independent and adequate' state rules impinge upon constitutional demands.

So, Kelly is arguing that Act 77 (brought into law by PA Republicans) violates the US constitution, because it violated PA Constitution, but the responsibility of determining if State Law violates a State Constitution is up to the Supreme Court of the State and not the SCOTUS.
You seem to be misinformed. There is no allegation of a violation of the state constitution. There is an allegation of a violation of state's law. Specifically, the claim is that the laws drafted were explicitly designed such that if certain prescriptions regarding mail-in ballots were not adhered to, that everything about the validity of mail-in ballots were null and void.

The PA Supreme court already ruled on Act 77 and said it was constitutional. So no chance here.
No, that's exactly where there is a chance, because the PA Supreme Court's ruling goes against Federal law that states that state legislatures are responsible for determining what happens with respect to voting procedures, not anyone else.

Kelly also wants to invalidate all mail in voting, but to get that to SCOTUS he needs federal objections. He is very light on this.
The federal objection would be how the PA supreme court created law ab initio when it heard the dispute regarding mail-in ballots.

So this is pretty much how it will go.
You might want to brush up on the details a little bit more before you go around calling other people 'padawan'.
 
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