US Election 2020 - Lame duck days

greg0205

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Mine was post 1994, so I got some nice courses giving general oversight regarding constitutional law and how its supremacy pertains to the validity of other laws. Obviously, things won't translate perfectly, but in general there are many similar principles at play.
Well, not perfectly because, you know, we don't have a federal system like the US... Or states rights, which Texas fought for in 1861 but seem to want to overturn in 2020.

Yeah, I really have only one amusing anecdote from WITS law school in the 80s...

This is SA band, The Helicopters.


And here's an interview with drummer, Nick Matzukis and lead singer, Bernard Binns.


Anyway, Nick was my 1st year law lecturer.
 
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Trump’s legal team publicly says the safe harbor deadline is meaningless and they’ll simply disregard it. Set by a 140-year-old statute, the date isn’t enshrined in the Constitution, they say. But the campaign’s legal filings tell another story, as Trump’s lawyers pressed courts for urgent action ahead of the deadline midnight on Tuesday and warned of irreparable consequences if they don’t.
 

TysonRoux

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Yank Trumptards are so much like the verkrampte MyBB Trumptards.

Trump supporters on why they don’t wear masks: We don’t have the ‘vibrational frequencies’ to get coronavirus​

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In the a video posted to their Twitter account this Tuesday, comedy duo The Good Liars interviewed a pair of Trump supporters, asking the women why they don’t wear masks in the midst of a surging global pandemic.

“We don’t have the vibrational frequency to host the virus,” one of the women said. “So, if you don’t have that vibrational frequency right here, you’re not gonna get it.”



According to the other woman, she doesn’t “put life into COVID,” so she’s immune from the virus. “I never wear a mask,” she said. “Ever.”


We asked these Trump supporters why they don’t wear masks. pic.twitter.com/GgZ4HJz6lf

— The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) December 8, 2020
 

AfricanTech

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Interesting read.

So this is what you were sitting on all the time in order to maximise the impact on the, what did you call us, "TDS Brigade" - the Texas Filing which consolidates many (if not all) of the other complaints that have variously been thrown out by lower courts.

Going to be fascinating to see how this unfolds - Texas legal minds vs the other Defendant States legal minds.
 

greg0205

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Interesting read.

So this is what you were sitting on all the time in order to maximise the impact on the, what did you call us, "TDS Brigade" - the Texas Filing which consolidates many (if not all) of the other complaints that have variously been thrown out by lower courts.

Going to be fascinating to see how this unfolds - Texas legal minds vs the other Defendant States legal minds.
Allow me:


The rest of the conversation...

For those of you asking why this didn’t start in a lower court: States are allowed to bring lawsuits against other states directly to SCOTUS, but as many others have pointed out, SCOTUS doesn’t take kindly to frivolous filings. This one should be brutal.


Probably on the money. Texas’ solicitor general isn’t even on the filings. He’s the one who would normally argue a case before SCOTUS and it looks like he noped the **** outta there.

You might want to click on this thread and scroll down...


And here's the lawyer Lou Dobbs suggested should be paid half a Billion Dollars so Donnie could win a case...

 

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Interesting read.

So this is what you were sitting on all the time in order to maximise the impact on the, what did you call us, "TDS Brigade" - the Texas Filing which consolidates many (if not all) of the other complaints that have variously been thrown out by lower courts.

Going to be fascinating to see how this unfolds - Texas legal minds vs the other Defendant States legal minds.
That's just one little filing, which I assumed most the TDS-gang wouldn't bother actually reading anyway... The most I was expecting to hear from you lot was something like "Texas is a stupid Trumper who believes in conspiracy theories".

So good job on actually reading it! The next few weeks will be real interesting.
 
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That's just one little filing, which I assumed most the TDS-gang wouldn't bother actually reading anyway... The most I was expecting to hear from you lot was something like "Texas is a stupid Trumper who believes in conspiracy theories".

So good job on actually read it! The next few weeks will be real interesting.
You can keep your patronising observation to yourself thanks.
 

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His denial is more in line with what I was expecting. No surprise when the media and left have been "debunking" countless instances of indisputable evidence and attempting to discredit all filings and cases daily since the election.
Nearly ten to three on the east coast.

Tick tock tick tock

Safe Harbor day in the history books before you know it.
 

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That's just one little filing, which I assumed most the TDS-gang wouldn't bother actually reading anyway... The most I was expecting to hear from you lot was something like "Texas is a stupid Trumper who believes in conspiracy theories".

So good job on actually reading it! The next few weeks will be real interesting.

I think you mean "Texas has a stupid Trumper Governor who believes in conspiracy theories and is angling for a pardon".
 

The Trutherizer

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Modern humans evolved around 200 000 years ago.

This is, without exception, the biggest collective suck of Copium in all that time.
Ah yes. But see. Once you ignore the Copium addicts it becomes a zany thread full of cool pictures and witty banter.

(I held out for as long as I could, but in the end I chose life)
 

buka001

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His denial is more in line with what I was expecting. No surprise when the media and left have been "debunking" countless instances of indisputable evidence and attempting to discredit all filings and cases daily since the election.
Well 49 court sessions have debunked the entirety of the allegations brought to them from Trump et al, thus far. A fact you ignore and will obfuscate.

Its not the msm. Its the courts, with conservative justices, appointed by Trump and other Republican presidents.
 

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Nearly ten to three on the east coast.

Tick tock tick tock

Safe Harbor day in the history books before you know it.
Huh! Shows what you know

If you read that Texas filing neither that date, nore any of the other so-called 'deadline' dates hold any water - hell, according to that filing even Biden's actual inauguration on the 20th of January 2021 will prevent it's continuation.

I quote for you unlettered, unwashed, denialists:

5.This action is not moot and will not become moot. None of the looming election deadlines are constitutional, and they all are within this Court’s power to enjoin. Indeed, if this Court vacated a State’s appointmentor certification of presidential electors, those Electors could not vote on December 14, 2020; if the Court vacated their vote after the fact, the House of Representatives could not countthose votes on January 6, 2021. There would be ample time for the Defendant States’ legislatures to appoint new presidential electors in a manner consistent with the Constitution. Any remedial action can be complete well before January 6, 2020. Indeed, even the swearing in of the next President on January 20, 2021,will not moot this case because review could outlast even the selection of the next President under “the ‘capable of repetition, yet evading review ’doctrine,” which applies “in the context of election cases... when there are ‘as applied’challenges as well as in the more typical case involving only facial attacks.”FEC v. Wisconsin Right to Life, Inc., 551 U.S. 449, 463 (2007) (internal quotations omitted); accordNorman v. Reed, 502 U.S. 279, 287-88 (1992). Mootness is not, and will not become, an issue here.

Only thing that worries me is the amount of "ifs" in the filing - lots and lots of "if this" then "that", "if" that, then "this"

Not sure what a 'facial' attack is though - must be a technical term pursuant to US legal speak.
 

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Yank Trumptards are so much like the verkrampte MyBB Trumptards.

Trump supporters on why they don’t wear masks: We don’t have the ‘vibrational frequencies’ to get coronavirus​

trump-supporters--768x413.jpeg


In the a video posted to their Twitter account this Tuesday, comedy duo The Good Liars interviewed a pair of Trump supporters, asking the women why they don’t wear masks in the midst of a surging global pandemic.

“We don’t have the vibrational frequency to host the virus,” one of the women said. “So, if you don’t have that vibrational frequency right here, you’re not gonna get it.”



According to the other woman, she doesn’t “put life into COVID,” so she’s immune from the virus. “I never wear a mask,” she said. “Ever.”


We asked these Trump supporters why they don’t wear masks. pic.twitter.com/GgZ4HJz6lf

— The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) December 8, 2020
See that's why I keep tuning them.
 
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