US Election 2020 - Pt 2

OrbitalDawn

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This story that cerebus posted earlier is really worth reading. They'll need a commission to get to the bottom of the disastrous response.

Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said.
 

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Trump's doctored presidential seal leads to firing




A member of a conservative US group has been fired after projecting a doctored version of the presidential seal at an event featuring President Donald Trump.

A representative for the group, Turning Point USA, told the Washington Post that the fake seal was a mistake, the result of a rushed online search.

But while the group called the slip-up "unacceptable", they maintained there was no "malicious intent".

So what's the story behind the doctored presidential seal?



When Mr Trump took to the stage at Turning Point USA's student summit, the president looked to be in his element, greeted by a crowd of adoring young conservatives.

After a 12-minute video detailing his journey to the White House, Mr Trump addressed the group, his remarks met with raucous applause.

"There's never been anything like this," Mr Trump said to the crowd.

But upon closer inspection, something about the president's presentation appeared amiss. First noted by the Washington Post, the seal that was flashed on screen as Mr Trump walked on stage had several calculated tweaks - all of which seemed to poke fun at the president.

Both the White House and Turning Point say they don't know how the doctored seal made its way on screen, and the conservative group denies any harmful intent.

However, it ended up behind the president, the incident has left the seal's creator - who made it a couple of years ago as a joke for his friends - laughing.

"This is the most petty piece of art I have ever created," graphic designer Charles Leazott told the Washington Post - adding that the person who put it up was "either wildly incompetent or the best troll ever".

"Either way," he told the newspaper, "I love them."

Here's what's behind the unwelcome alterations.

A nod to Russia?
The focal point of the presidential seal - the bald eagle - has a storied past in the United States.

The animal has been the nation's emblem since 1789, selected for its allusions to strength and independence.



But the eagle that appeared on screen this week was not the eagle hand-picked by the Founding Fathers. Instead, the two-headed bird briefly projected next to Mr Trump bears a striking resemblance to the eagle featured on the Russian flag.

Two-headed eagles also appear on the flags of Serbia, Albania and Montenegro, but this particular seal-swap seems likely to reference Russia, as Mr Trump's close ties to Russia and President Vladimir Putin have been a running narrative of his presidency.

 

Chris_the_Brit

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Some Republicans said the polls may be accurate, especially when it comes to Trump’s sagging support among suburban voters, but that there’s still time for Trump to recover in large part because he still has the upper hand on the economy. Trump is leading or polling even with Biden on the issue.

'Upper hand on the economy' :unsure:

Yeah, so a substantial number of job losses is due to the pandemic and the stimulus bill did provide some nice benefits (extra $600 a week in unemployment benefits). However, that is now ended and it's unlikely many of the newly unemployed will get their jobs back before November. I guess the thinking here is Trump would be better leading the economic recovery....
 

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'Upper hand on the economy' :unsure:

Yeah, so a substantial number of job losses is due to the pandemic and the stimulus bill did provide some nice benefits (extra $600 a week in unemployment benefits). However, that is now ended and it's unlikely many of the newly unemployed will get their jobs back before November. I guess the thinking here is Trump would be better leading the economic recovery....
Which is weird, 'cos Joe was VP of the admin that actually did it in '09.
 

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Deutsche Bank Investigating Longtime Banker Of Donald Trump And Jared Kushner
The personal banking executive bought a condo from a real estate company partly owned by Kushner.



Deutsche Bank has begun an investigation into the longtime personal banker of Donald Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner for her purchase of a New York condo from a company partly owned by Kushner, according to two news reports.

The connection emerged in personal financial disclosures filed recently by Kushner and wife Ivanka Trump, who hold jobs as White House senior advisers.

Banker Rosemary Vrablic and two colleagues purchased an apartment on Park Avenue in Manhattan for about $1.5 million in 2013 from Bergel 715 Associates, The New York Times first reported Sunday. It was sold two years later for $1.85 million.

The first daughter and Kushner received $1 million to $5 million from Bergel 715 in 2019, according to the couple’s required financial disclosures, which they filed Friday. It was the first time Bergel had appeared in their filings.

A source familiar with the business arrangement told The Times that Kushner owns a stake in Bergel, and did so when Vrablic purchased the condo. But the income reported from Bergel was not linked to the banker’s purchase, according to the source.

The Deutsche Bank investigation will determine if Vrablic acted improperly by purchasing the condo, according to The Hill. It’s typically against policy at banks for employees to do business — other than banking — with clients to avoid conflicts of interest, the Times noted.

“The bank will closely examine the information that came to light on Friday and the [facts] from 2013,” bank spokesman Daniel Hunter said in a statement after learning of the Kushner connection to the condo.

Kushner and Donald Trump were clients of Vrablic when the banker bought the condo. Kushner introduced his father-in-law to her in 2011 when Trump was having a hard time finding a bank that would loan him money after his repeated bankruptcies and loan defaults, including one to Deutsche Bank, the Times noted.

By 2013, the men had received about $190 million in Deutsche Bank loans with Vrablic’s help — and hundreds of millions after that, according to the Times.

Trump borrowed $175 million for his Trump National Doral golf resort in Florida, and for the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago in 2012. The bank later financed the Trump International Hotel in Washington, the Times reported.

Deutsche Bank is Trump’s biggest creditor. It has loaned the Trump Organization some $2 billion since 1998, and there are currently an estimated $350 million in loans outstanding, according to the Times. The loans are reportedly backed by a personal guarantee from Trump himself.
 

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Trump’s Broken Promises On Healthcare Called Out In Stinging New Ad
“Trump has no plan. Never has. Never will,” the spot from progressive PAC MeidasTouch says.



A new attack ad highlights President Donald Trump’s repeated and long-running failure to deliver on his promises to shake up the nation’s healthcare system.

“We’re signing a healthcare plan within two weeks, a full and complete healthcare plan,” Trump vowed in a July 19 interview with Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.” The 60-second spot was released by progressive super PAC MeidasTouch on Sunday ― two weeks after that interview when no such plan had arrived. Trump spent much of Sunday at Trump National Golf Club in Virginia, where he was seen golfing for the second day in a row.

Since before he took office, Trump has pledged to imminently produce a comprehensive healthcare plan to replace the Affordable Care Act. Yet, with three months to go before the election, more than 150,000 people dead and millions more infected as the coronavirus surges around the U.S., no overhaul has been delivered.

The White House did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.
“In response to a question by Chris Wallace why Trump hasn’t had a healthcare plan in 3.5 years, Trump’s response was he was going to have a health care plan ready to sign in two weeks. Of course, this has not been the case,” MeidasTouch said in a statement released with the video.
“Trump has been lying about everything since he ran for office, but his lies on health care are particularly and peculiarly virulent and dastardly given that is causing people to become and stay stick and lose their lives — on a mass scale.”

The TrumpHasNoPlan hashtag paired alongside the video was among Twitter’s top trending topics in the U.S. on Sunday night.

The group is fundraising for a nationwide Fox News TV ad buy for the spot, according to the statement. It’s not clear if or when it will air.

MeidasTouch was founded by Ben Meiselas and his brothers, Brett and Jordan. Meiselas is a civil rights attorney who represented former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in his settlement with the NFL.

Trump has no healthcare plan. Never has. Never will. Exactly two weeks ago, compulsive liar Donald Trump did what compulsive liars do... lie compulsively during his interview with Chris Wallace.

In response to a question by Chris Wallace why Trump hasn’t had a healthcare plan in 3.5 years, Trump’s response was he was going to have a healthcare plan ready to sign in two weeks. Of course, this has not been the case.
 

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Trump’s Broken Promises On Healthcare Called Out In Stinging New Ad
“Trump has no plan. Never has. Never will,” the spot from progressive PAC MeidasTouch says.



A new attack ad highlights President Donald Trump’s repeated and long-running failure to deliver on his promises to shake up the nation’s healthcare system.

“We’re signing a healthcare plan within two weeks, a full and complete healthcare plan,” Trump vowed in a July 19 interview with Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.” The 60-second spot was released by progressive super PAC MeidasTouch on Sunday ― two weeks after that interview when no such plan had arrived. Trump spent much of Sunday at Trump National Golf Club in Virginia, where he was seen golfing for the second day in a row.

Since before he took office, Trump has pledged to imminently produce a comprehensive healthcare plan to replace the Affordable Care Act. Yet, with three months to go before the election, more than 150,000 people dead and millions more infected as the coronavirus surges around the U.S., no overhaul has been delivered.

The White House did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.
“In response to a question by Chris Wallace why Trump hasn’t had a healthcare plan in 3.5 years, Trump’s response was he was going to have a health care plan ready to sign in two weeks. Of course, this has not been the case,” MeidasTouch said in a statement released with the video.
“Trump has been lying about everything since he ran for office, but his lies on health care are particularly and peculiarly virulent and dastardly given that is causing people to become and stay stick and lose their lives — on a mass scale.”

The TrumpHasNoPlan hashtag paired alongside the video was among Twitter’s top trending topics in the U.S. on Sunday night.

The group is fundraising for a nationwide Fox News TV ad buy for the spot, according to the statement. It’s not clear if or when it will air.

MeidasTouch was founded by Ben Meiselas and his brothers, Brett and Jordan. Meiselas is a civil rights attorney who represented former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in his settlement with the NFL.

Trump has no healthcare plan. Never has. Never will. Exactly two weeks ago, compulsive liar Donald Trump did what compulsive liars do... lie compulsively during his interview with Chris Wallace.

In response to a question by Chris Wallace why Trump hasn’t had a healthcare plan in 3.5 years, Trump’s response was he was going to have a healthcare plan ready to sign in two weeks. Of course, this has not been the case.
@greg0205 there you go. Trump is so consistently a liar that these folks felt confident enough to invest in making this ad. Imo it was a very safe bet :ROFL:
 

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greg0205

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@greg0205 there you go. Trump is so consistently a liar that these folks felt confident enough to invest in making this ad. Imo it was a very safe bet :ROFL:
The safest bets you can make is that if Donnie tells a "sir" story, it never happened; and that when he says "two weeks" he's lying... or, maybe bullish*tting... or, maybe both.
 

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Up until recently she's been pandering to the Orange Dotard, and was called out on that over the weekend.

Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings



The President blasts the coordinator of the coronavirus task force after she warned the pandemic is 'extraordinarily widespread' in the US


President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.

While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire.


The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 150,000 US citizens dead and more than 4 million cases. Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen.

"So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote.

Birx sounded the alarms during an appearance on CNN Sunday, telling CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" that the pandemic has reached a new phase.
 

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Up until recently she's been pandering to the Orange Dotard, and was called out on that over the weekend.

Trump criticizes Birx for the first time after she issues coronavirus warnings



The President blasts the coordinator of the coronavirus task force after she warned the pandemic is 'extraordinarily widespread' in the US


President Donald Trump criticized Dr. Deborah Birx in a Monday tweet after she warned the pandemic is "extraordinarily widespread" in the US.

While Trump and other top White House officials have publicly attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, the tweet marked the first time Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, publicly drew Trump's ire.


The dust-up comes as the country continues to be ravaged by coronavirus, with more than 150,000 US citizens dead and more than 4 million cases. Trump has consistently lied and misled mostly in attempts to downplay concerns about the virus as he presses for schools and businesses to reopen.

"So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics. In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!" Trump wrote.

Birx sounded the alarms during an appearance on CNN Sunday, telling CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" that the pandemic has reached a new phase.
He prefers them to remain bimbos. I’m
glad she didn’t.
 

cerebus

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He prefers them to remain bimbos. I’m
glad she didn’t.
He prefers them to look like they’re praying for the earth to swallow them alive while he promotes the idea of injecting bleach to cure Corona
 
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