US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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Except she has no hope of being elected. As much I love the democratic nature of primaries, I've realised one big flaw is that only political aficionados sign up as members of political parties but they also seem to be the ones who are most extreme in their views and this is sometimes reflected in who they decide to elect...

There's an actual Democrat in Congress who engages in anti-Semitic tropes
 

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This is hilarious. Trump just says the thing out loud, every time


Trump says he moved US embassy to Jerusalem ‘for the evangelicals’

“And we moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem,” Trump said at a rally held at an airport in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, apparently referring to his decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv. “That’s for the evangelicals.”

“You know, it’s amazing with that — the evangelicals are more excited by that than Jewish people,” he said to cheers from the crowd. “That’s right, it’s incredible.”

 

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Anecdotally it happens. I went from super right wing, like legitimately had specific views about specific races to a moderate left wing person.
I am not sure why you think that having specific views about specific races is necessarily indicative of a political outlook. One can still have specific views about specific races and be on the political left.

Also, anecdotally, conversion therapy works for some people, but that doesn't mean we stop treating sexual orientation as innate. Which is to say that I don't believe you changed as a person when your position on races changed.

So if Patagona, a left leaning company decides to ban MAGA hats, as a private entity they have right to do so in practicing their political beliefs. I do see it in the same vein as as Goya or Equinox, or Chick-fil-a a couple years ago, companies should be allowed to exercise support for a political candidate or have views on homosexuality etc. You should just expect the ramifications though the free market.
There is a difference between Patagona choosing to support a particular candidate or political viewpoint, and Patagona preventing its employees from expressing their own viewpoints. Particularly if the job description of those employees does not include interacting with the public. And I don't believe that private corporations have rights like natural persons, that's crazy.
 

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This is hilarious. Trump just says the thing out loud, every time


Trump says he moved US embassy to Jerusalem ‘for the evangelicals’

“And we moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem,” Trump said at a rally held at an airport in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, apparently referring to his decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv. “That’s for the evangelicals.”

“You know, it’s amazing with that — the evangelicals are more excited by that than Jewish people,” he said to cheers from the crowd. “That’s right, it’s incredible.”


The Jewish conspiracy people are going to go nuts with this one.
 

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That is your position if you support the warmongering Democrats or the "migrants" in Europe.

That is literally causing the migrant crisis.

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The White House refuses to say whether or not Trump will accept results of the election

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core component of the Republican Party’s strategy to reelect Donald Trump is consistently and unapologetically lying about just about every political issue on the table.


Yet there are some things that Donald Trump says about his future intentions that the American public must take deadly seriously — his refusal to confirm that he will abide by the results of an election that he is already calling rigged before a single vote is cast and while he is doing everything in his power, including destroying the U.S. Postal Service, to suppress the ability of Democrats to vote against him.


This unprecedented refusal to commit to an orderly transfer of power once the election results are confirmed was the subject of a question posed to White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany today during a press briefing.


McEnanay was asked to explain Trump’s comment earlier this week that “the only way he would lose this election was if this election was rigged” and whether there was “any circumstance under which he could lose the election fairly.”


The Press Secretary’s answer was a perfect example of why she’s been dubbed “Kay-lie” by many observers who are amazed at her ability to spout misinformation and outright fabulism in her defense of the president.


Actually, it’s difficult to fault the truthfulness of McEnany in the opening line of her response to the question since she couches it with the qualifier “The president believes” which could provide an excuse for a large multitude of delusional notions.


“The president believes that he has done a great for ther American people and he believes that will show in November,” the Press Secretary began her answer. “He believes that, uhh, that voter fraud is real, in line with what we see all across the country, particularly wirth mail-in ballots which are prone to fraud,” McEnany concluded by repeating Trump’s false talking points.

While this level of misinformation regarding phony claims of mail-in voter fraud is frightening, what McEnanay said in response to a follow-up question should result in many a lost night’s sleep for anyone who values our nation’s democratic principles.



A reporter asked whether Trump’s claims — that the only way he will lose will be if the election is rigged — means that he won’t accept the election results unless he wins.


“The president has always said he’ll see what happens and make a determination in the aftermath,” McEnany replied.
“He wants a free election, a fair election, and he wants confidence in the results of the election, particularly when you have states like Nevada doing mass mail out voting to their voting rules and when they tried this in the primary, it was a massive failure, ballots were piled up in trashcans, ballots were pinned to apartment dart boards, and with that being the system, the president wants to take a hard look at this and make sure these are fair election results and not subject to fraud,” the Press Secretary replied, rapidly repeating her talking points with barely a breath between her words.

McEnany’s regurgitation of Trump’s self-serving attempts at reducing the confidence in an absentee ballot practice that has functioned without major problems – with the exception of Republican-planned election fraud — for decades is a dire forecast for an era of post-election turmoil as the president is already preparing the nation for the monumental tantrum he will throw if his attempts at skewing the playing field through voter suppression and the summoning of foreign interference do not yield the desired victory that he foolishly believes that he deserves.


You can watch McEnany respond to the questions about Trump’s willingness to accept the election results in the video excerpt below.



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The White House refuses to say whether or not Trump will accept results of the election

200721182814-trump-mcenany-split-0721-full-169.jpg


core component of the Republican Party’s strategy to reelect Donald Trump is consistently and unapologetically lying about just about every political issue on the table.


Yet there are some things that Donald Trump says about his future intentions that the American public must take deadly seriously — his refusal to confirm that he will abide by the results of an election that he is already calling rigged before a single vote is cast and while he is doing everything in his power, including destroying the U.S. Postal Service, to suppress the ability of Democrats to vote against him.


This unprecedented refusal to commit to an orderly transfer of power once the election results are confirmed was the subject of a question posed to White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany today during a press briefing.


McEnanay was asked to explain Trump’s comment earlier this week that “the only way he would lose this election was if this election was rigged” and whether there was “any circumstance under which he could lose the election fairly.”


The Press Secretary’s answer was a perfect example of why she’s been dubbed “Kay-lie” by many observers who are amazed at her ability to spout misinformation and outright fabulism in her defense of the president.


Actually, it’s difficult to fault the truthfulness of McEnany in the opening line of her response to the question since she couches it with the qualifier “The president believes” which could provide an excuse for a large multitude of delusional notions.




While this level of misinformation regarding phony claims of mail-in voter fraud is frightening, what McEnanay said in response to a follow-up question should result in many a lost night’s sleep for anyone who values our nation’s democratic principles.



A reporter asked whether Trump’s claims — that the only way he will lose will be if the election is rigged — means that he won’t accept the election results unless he wins.




McEnany’s regurgitation of Trump’s self-serving attempts at reducing the confidence in an absentee ballot practice that has functioned without major problems – with the exception of Republican-planned election fraud — for decades is a dire forecast for an era of post-election turmoil as the president is already preparing the nation for the monumental tantrum he will throw if his attempts at skewing the playing field through voter suppression and the summoning of foreign interference do not yield the desired victory that he foolishly believes that he deserves.


You can watch McEnany respond to the questions about Trump’s willingness to accept the election results in the video excerpt below.


Did she say when the democrats will accept the results of the 2016 election?
 

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Nobody is saying it is her fault or yours.

Wishing that more people die and celebrating the deaths of thousands is the actual issue here.
So when can I expect your opposition to abortion then? :rolleyes:

Nevertheless, I really don't see how a tradthot with a journalism degree like Loomer is the best possible person the GOP could find in that area.
 

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I think this is Trump being provocative rather than being indicative of a genuine position.

He is playing the same game as he did in 2015.
Moderator Bret Baier began by asking the 10 candidates to raise their hands if they would not vow to support the eventual GOP nominee and "pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person." Trump raised his hand.

"I cannot say I have to respect the person that — if it's not me — the person that wins," Trump explained.

Trump noted he hopes to run as a Republican, but he repeatedly refused to rule out the possibility he would launch a third party bid if he's defeated in the primary.

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-begins-debate-with-a-threat-2015-8?IR=T

With the complete lack of law and order that 2020 has shown the police to tolerate, it wouldn't surprise me if you see peaceful burnings of Walmarts and Churches by BLM and ANTIFA if Trump wins in November.
 

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I think this is Trump being provocative rather than being indicative of a genuine position.

He is playing the same game as he did in 2015.
You can basically replace Trump with Zuma and everything makes sense.

I think this is Zuma was being provocative rather than being indicative of a genuine position.

He is playing the same game as he did in 20xx.
 

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This is hilarious. Trump just says the thing out loud, every time


Trump says he moved US embassy to Jerusalem ‘for the evangelicals’

“And we moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem,” Trump said at a rally held at an airport in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, apparently referring to his decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv. “That’s for the evangelicals.”

“You know, it’s amazing with that — the evangelicals are more excited by that than Jewish people,” he said to cheers from the crowd. “That’s right, it’s incredible.”

Trump says he spoke to God about economy, believes God will help him rebuild it again

President Donald Trump revealed he spoke to God about the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic and God told him He’s going to have him rebuild “the greatest economy in the history of the world” again.

Speaking at a small rally that attracted several hundred supporters in Mankato, Minnesota, Monday, Trump branded presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden as a "puppet of left-wing extremists" who would destroy the American way of life by "trying to erase our borders, eliminate our police, indoctrinate our children, vilify our heroes” and “take away our energy."

If Biden were to be elected, he would “replace American freedom with left-wing fascism,” Trump added.

The president hailed his pre-pandemic economic record which reflected a strong stock market, wage growth of about a 3% average and low unemployment as “nothing short of an economic miracle.”
 
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