US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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Tokolotshe

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If Trump loses in November, all of a sudden nobody here will ever have been a Trump supporter.

Already seeing it.
Okay,just for fun: Who are the Trump supporters and who not?

Or is it like that racist line ... anybody you don't like?
 

greg0205

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Hey Siri, can you show me revisionism in a headline?

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TysonRoux

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lol!

The arrest came as the Trump administration faces accusations that it’s trying to undermine the Postal Service in a crucial election year.


Postal Inspection Service agents arrested Bannon aboard a luxury mega yacht, the $US28 million Lady May owned by Chinese businessman Guo Wengui, off the coast of Westbrook, Connecticut, according to the Hartford Courant.
 

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Who are the other three that were arrested with Trump's boi?

Timothy Shea

Today, Attorney General William P. Barr announced the appointment of Timothy J. Shea as Acting Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Timothy Shea is an American prosecutor who, since May 2020, has served as Acting Administrator of the Drug Enforcement
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LOL, the Orange Dotard is so predictable.

Yes, of course Donald Trump wants his face added to Mount Rushmore

On Sunday night, President Donald Trump tweeted out a picture of himself standing in front of Mount Rushmore -- an image that made him look as though he was the fifth presidential bust on the iconic monument.


Moments later, he tweeted out a sort-of denial of a New York Times report that he had spoken with South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem about the possibility of adding his own visage to those of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
Tweeteth Trump:
"This is Fake News by the failing @nytimes & bad ratings @CNN. Never suggested it although, based on all of the many things accomplished during the first 3 1/2 years, perhaps more than any other Presidency, sounds like a good idea to me."

So Trump says a) he has never raised the possibility with Noem of being added to Mount Rushmore but b) thinks it sounds like a great idea!
Let's take the first point, uh, first.
We know that Trump has, in fact, raised the topic with Noem and that he was serious about it.
"He said, 'Kristi, come on over here. Shake my hand,'" Noem told the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader about a meeting with Trump in the Oval Office. "I shook his hand, and I said, 'Mr. President, you should come to South Dakota sometime. We have Mount Rushmore.' And he goes, 'Do you know it's my dream to have my face on Mount Rushmore?'. "I started laughing. He wasn't laughing, so he was totally serious."
Then there's this from a Trump campaign rally in July 2017:
"Every single president on Mt. Rushmore -- I'd ask whether or not you think I will someday be on Mt. Rushmore. But here's the problem: If i did it, joking, totally joking, the fake news media would say he believes he should be on Mt. Rushmore. So I won't say it."

He's not joking. Remember that Trump always uses the I-am-just-joking-and-you-media-stiffs-don't-get-it explanation whenever he says something that a) he means and b) he wants to give himself the ability to walk away from. But he's not joking. Not at all.

Don't take my word for it. Take Noem's. Again!
This is from the Times story that ran on Sunday (bolding is mine):
"Introducing Mr. Trump against the floodlit backdrop of his carved predecessors, the governor played to the president's craving for adulation by noting that in just three days more than 125,000 people had signed up for only 7,500 seats; she likened him to Theodore Roosevelt, a leader who "braves the dangers of the arena"; and she mimicked the president's rhetoric by scorning protesters who she said were seeking to discredit the country's founders.

"In private, the efforts to charm Mr. Trump were more pointed, according to a person familiar with the episode:
Ms. Noem greeted him with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included a fifth presidential likeness: his."
She had a Mount Rushmore replica made with Trump's face on it! Repeat: She had a Mount Rushmore replica made with Trump's face on it!
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Having a ‘lawless’ president in charge as America heads for elections is no laughing matter

By John Stremlau• 21 August 2020


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American President Donald Trump’s actions are undermining the upcoming US presidential elections in ways that citizens of Africa know all too well. It surely alarms Africa’s citizens who are struggling to sustain fragile democracies and seeking to balance equality and freedom with justice under law. Were AU leaders to protest against voter suppression in the US, much as they did the police brutality in the George Floyd murder, it would be seen globally as consistent with the ‘Black Lives Matter’ campaign.


In October 2015, The Daily Show host, Trevor Noah, regaled millions of his viewers with an African’s perspective on the leadership attributes of Donald Trump.


He juxtaposed clips of Trump praising himself with similarly narcissistic comments made by African autocrats Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe and Muammar al-Gaddafi. Noah’s satirical point was that Trump becoming US president was ludicrous. Five years later, Trump’s autocratic behaviour is no laughing matter.


Today the integrity and credibility of America’s 3 November presidential election are being undermined in ways that many Africans know all too well.



Based on their research into African electoral politics, Prof Nicolas Cheeseman and Brian Klaas cite five warnings of an African election at risk: “Organised militias [such as those Trump ordered to quell protests in Portland, Oregon]; a leader who is not prepared to lose; distrust of the political system; disinformation; and a potentially close contest.” Their conclusion: “Right now, the U.S. has all five.”


There is also plenty of evidence in America that Trump and Republican Party leaders are attempting to undermine the electoral process.
 

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If Trump loses in November, all of a sudden nobody here will ever have been a Trump supporter.

Already seeing it.
Most people have alway been of the opinion that he is just the lesser of two evils. Very few are true supporters.

It's just with the extreme case of TDS some suffer from it is hard for them to understand how anyone can basically be neutral.
 

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I see Joe's speech was anything but sleepy. Strings sentences together far more eloquently than Trump. I guess there goes another Trumpistan talking point.
 

rietrot

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I see Joe's speech was anything but sleepy. Strings sentences together far more eloquently than Trump. I guess there goes another Trumpistan talking point.
My grandpa also had some good days, even near the end.

It would be like his dementia was completely gone, then the next day he wouldn't recognize my grandmother and try to leave the house naked and confused.

The trick when dealing with people with dementia is to not question their reality. Just let them live in whatever time they find themselves.
 

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Most people have alway been of the opinion that he is just the lesser of two evils. Very few are true supporters.

It's just with the extreme case of TDS some suffer from it is hard for them to understand how anyone can basically be neutral.

Just no.

You were here defending him saying Thigh-land.



Maybe sit this one out rietrot.
 

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This is a great speech. The case for Biden as doddery senile old man hiding in his basement is flimsy, to say the least.


 

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This is a great speech. The case for Biden as doddery senile old man hiding in his basement is flimsy, to say the least.


come now, that was nothing but a boring humdrum reading from teleprompters - hardly fiery and inspirational.
even zuma could read nice scripts, although he had a problem when there were too many zeros in a texts.

obama delivered something memorable for voters to take to the ballot - pity he lied about covid, that i truly did not expect from him
 

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come now, that was nothing but a boring humdrum reading from teleprompters - hardly fiery and inspirational.
even zuma could read nice scripts, although he had a problem when there were too many zeros in a texts.

obama delivered something memorable for voters to take to the ballot - pity he lied about covid, that i truly did not expect from him

How did Obama lie?
 
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