US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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cerebus

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I think that the protests will continue if Trump gets re-elected. In part, the protests are taking place because of Trump's toxic presence: a fish rots from the head down. I'm not blaming Trump directly, but suffice to say, I don't think that there would have been these protests had the president been someone else. So the protests will continue, and may even get worse, if Trump gets re-elected, not because Democrats will be organising such protests, but because many people won't see light at the end of the tunnel with four more years of Trump. People have gotten to a point where they feel that they have nothing to lose anymore.

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Yeah I agree with you on this one.

However.. it is impossible to buy into your concern about revisionism when you support Trump with his endless examples of revisionism about way more important things. Russia invading Crimea top of the list.

Another example of win/lose > right/wrong
Why do you presuppose I support Trump's historical revisionism? I simply posted about Biden today because he said it yesterday and his revisionism was cynical due the context in which he said it - a 'black' church.
 

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I'm glad you're such a stickler for historical accuracy. Maybe you can tell us about Frederick Douglass, Andrew Jackson, the 1917 pandemic, and that one time where Canada burned down the White House?
I said 5 seconds. Not 50 hrs.
Yeah no I'm not responding to that wall of text. You know I have a job and a family right?
Yet you have shown your stellar respect for other people's time here and want to now do it again with your pigeon chess.

PS: Your reality is revisionist.
 

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I think that the protests will continue if Trump gets re-elected. In part, the protests are taking place because of Trump's toxic presence: a fish rots from the head down. I'm not blaming Trump directly, but suffice to say, I don't think that there would have been these protests had the president been someone else. So the protests will continue, and may even get worse, if Trump gets re-elected, not because Democrats will be organising such protests, but because many people won't see light at the end of the tunnel with four more years of Trump. People have gotten to a point where they feel that they have nothing to lose anymore.

Trump is trying to paint the protests as what life will be like under Biden, but I would argue that it is the opposite. If Biden gets elected, the protests will end, while if Trump gets re-elected, they will continue and even get worse.

Note that I do not condone these protests. For a brief while not so long ago, I warmed to Trump as the man who would end the protests, but then I realised that he is not the solution to the problem. It was a case of an enemy of an enemy being a friend. I am against the protests, and so is Trump, so for a brief while, I thought that he may not be so bad after all.
So only the democrats are democratic?
Democracy is when the democrats win?
If the democrats lose (are outvoted), it is not democratic?
 

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I think that the protests will continue if Trump gets re-elected. In part, the protests are taking place because of Trump's toxic presence: a fish rots from the head down. I'm not blaming Trump directly, but suffice to say, I don't think that there would have been these protests had the president been someone else. So the protests will continue, and may even get worse, if Trump gets re-elected, not because Democrats will be organising such protests, but because many people won't see light at the end of the tunnel with four more years of Trump. People have gotten to a point where they feel that they have nothing to lose anymore.

Trump is trying to paint the protests as what life will be like under Biden, but I would argue that it is the opposite. If Biden gets elected, the protests will end, while if Trump gets re-elected, they will continue and even get worse.

Note that I do not condone these protests. For a brief while not so long ago, I warmed to Trump as the man who would end the protests, but then I realised that he is not the solution to the problem. It was a case of an enemy of an enemy being a friend. I am against the protests, and so is Trump, so for a brief while, I thought that he may not be so bad after all.
As said
Democrats don't believe in democracy when they lose
 

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I think that the protests will continue if Trump gets re-elected. In part, the protests are taking place because of Trump's toxic presence: a fish rots from the head down. I'm not blaming Trump directly, but suffice to say, I don't think that there would have been these protests had the president been someone else. So the protests will continue, and may even get worse, if Trump gets re-elected, not because Democrats will be organising such protests, but because many people won't see light at the end of the tunnel with four more years of Trump. People have gotten to a point where they feel that they have nothing to lose anymore.

Trump is trying to paint the protests as what life will be like under Biden, but I would argue that it is the opposite. If Biden gets elected, the protests will end, while if Trump gets re-elected, they will continue and even get worse.

Note that I do not condone these protests. For a brief while not so long ago, I warmed to Trump as the man who would end the protests, but then I realised that he is not the solution to the problem. It was a case of an enemy of an enemy being a friend. I am against the protests, and so is Trump, so for a brief while, I thought that he may not be so bad after all.
So these protestors knew well before the dems, statisticians, politicians and everybody else that trump would one day be president? Put history on a timeline.

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So these protestors knew well before the dems, statisticians, politicians and everybody else that trump would one day be president? Put history on a timeline.

What are you talking about?
 

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Sollie is talking about the fact that BLM and Antifa has existed and have been protesting and doing terrorism since long before Trump even announced he would be running for president.

The current protests only started this year and lumeer's point is that they escalated to where they are now at least in part because of Trump's malignancy.
 

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No matter where I look, I see the same story echoed all over the internet. It's the insane Democrats vs EVERYONE ELSE. All the lefties are oblivious to this fact because their left-wing media censors everything that doesn't fit their narrative.

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You people can't even point to something real that Trump has done wrong. You are a complete joke.

Trump has brought out the worst in people.

Just yesterday I had a look at his Twitter feed. Obama would never have posted such drivel.
 
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Combat vet who toured Iraq and Afghanistan during active duty, talks about the left ruining pop culture + his first-hand experience with Antifa at protests and being assaulted by them.

 
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Trump has brought out the worst in people.
Trump hasn't brought out jack. He's just the only one fighting back against horrible humans, who are full of hatred, and have been brainwashed by a destructive ideology + an overwhelming amount of false narratives and propaganda.
 

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Trump hasn't brought out jack. He's just the only one fighting back against horrible humans, who are full of hatred, and have been brainwashed by a destructive ideology + an overwhelming amount of false narratives and propaganda.

At some level, you are right: it is not Trump who ought to be blamed, but the folks who voted for him. Trump can't help that he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.

However, America, and the world, need a president, not a reality television manboy.

The reason why people don't want Trump to attend their funerals, is because he's the type of person who will make the funeral about himself. I would not put it past Trump to start talking about his poll numbers while delivering a eulogy.
 

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Trump hasn't brought out jack. He's just the only one fighting back against horrible humans, who are full of hatred, and have been brainwashed by a destructive ideology + an overwhelming amount of false narratives and propaganda.

By the way, Trump doesn't really care about this ideological fight. He only cares about himself. He does what he does for himself. He is riding a populism wave for himself, not for the bigger ideology of it. He ran on the Republican ticket because he saw it offering a greater chance of being elected. Had it been the other way around, he would have ran as a Democrat and would have embraced Democrat values.
 
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At some level, you are right: it is not Trump who ought to be blamed, but the folks who voted for him. Trump can't help that he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.

However, America, and the world, need a president, not a reality television manboy.

The reason why people don't want Trump to attend their funerals, is because he's the type of person who will make the funeral about himself. I would not put it past Trump to start talking about his poll numbers while delivering a eulogy.
Wow! You are projecting big time.

Trump has done a better job than any other president in recent history. The results are undeniable. The country needs to be run like a business, not a preschool.

The democrats are the fake TV personalities who just lie, make false promises, and never do any good. Their states have fallen so far that there has been a widely reported ongoing mass-exodus of people moving to Republican states for many years, and it only continues to get worse.

Ironic you used a funeral as an example, since while I am not aware of Trump having ever done such a thing, I recently saw Obama do exactly that to campaign for the Democrats, push mail-in voting and other BS.

 
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By the way, Trump doesn't really care about this ideological fight. He only cares about himself. He does what he does for himself. He is riding a populism wave for himself, not for the bigger ideology of it. He ran on the Republican ticket because he saw it offering a greater chance of being elected. Had it been the other way around, he would have ran as a Democrat and would have embraced Democrat values.
So you hate Trump, and obtusely refuse to see anything beyond your hatred?
You "think" with your fee-fee's?
 
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