US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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lumeer said:
By the way, Trump doesn't really care about this ideological fight. He only cares about himself. He does what he does for himself. He is riding a populism wave for himself, not for the bigger ideology of it. He ran on the Republican ticket because he saw it offering a greater chance of being elected. Had it been the other way around, he would have ran as a Democrat and would have embraced Democrat values.
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Trump doesn't care about ideology or the Republicans. He cares about America and the people. He has proven this with his actions. You continue to ignore the undeniable results, believe the false MSM narratives and be blinded by deep-seated hatred. You may be fooling yourself, but you aren't fooling anyone else who isn't already a fool.
 
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Ponderer said:
So you hate Trump, and obtusely refuse to see anything beyond your hatred?
You "think" with your fee-fee's?
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Indeed. I am also more troubled that in that post, @lumeer is also advocating active violence against Trump which is fanned by his hatred. Not done lumeer, not done.
 
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Everyone should watch real news and learn the history of America, the Democrats and Trump. What you see from your MSM does not reflect reality.

This is a must watch. Trump is the only politician who has remained consistent for over 40 years. People have been asking him to run for president since the 80s.

 
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DavidFreeman said:
Wow! You are projecting big time.

Trump has done a better job than any other president in recent history. The results are undeniable. The country needs to be run like a business, not a preschool.

The democrats are the fake TV personalities who just lie, make false promises, and never do any good. Their states have fallen so far that there has been a widely reported ongoing mass-exodus of people moving to Republican states for many years, and it only continues to get worse.

Ironic you used a funeral as an example, since while I am not aware of Trump having ever done such a thing, I recently saw Obama do exactly that to campaign for the Democrats, push mail-in voting and other BS.

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Many presidents, most recently Clinton, presided over greater GDP growth than Trump. Trump's own businesses are not particularly successful; many have failed.
 
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Chris_the_Brit said:
Why do you presuppose I support Trump's historical revisionism? I simply posted about Biden today because he said it yesterday and his revisionism was cynical due the context in which he said it - a 'black' church.
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My bad. I assumed your point of the post was:
"Biden doesn't deserve support because of historical revisionism and pandering, so I'm gonna go with Trump on this one."

The reality is none of these fools deserve support but oh well.
 
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Emjay said:
Absentee ballots are solicited.
Mass mail in ballots are not.

That is not the same.

If there is hypocrisy, explain it. I do't live in lala land where things are the same when they are not.
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That simply isnt the case
- In some states they have sent everyone Mail APPLICATIONS. So the people have to mail back the Application and they then get sent a Mail-in Ballot... That is solicited
-In some states it is sort of as you say. One of those is California which Trump could never win anyway
- In most states you have to apply

Its the rules in Swing States that matter

So what is your issue?
The states that are sending ballots unsolicited to voters are few, and they are in states where either Trump or Biden do not have a prayer (California, Utah)

All the Swing States require application... therefore they are solicited

- FLorida - You have to apply for your absentee ballot
- Maine - you have to apply for your ballot
- Any registered Michigan voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
- Any registered Minnesota voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by absentee ballot.
- Any registered Nevada voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
- You may vote by absentee ballot in New Hampshire if... lots of conditions
- Any registered Ohio voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote absentee.
- Any registered Pennsylvania voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
- Any registered North Carolina voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
- VIrginia - they have to apply
- Any registered Wisconsin voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
 
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AlmightyBender said:
My bad. I assumed your point of the post was:
"Biden doesn't deserve support because of historical revisionism and pandering, so I'm gonna go with Trump on this one."

The reality is none of these fools deserve support but oh well.
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We shouldn't kid ourselves in believing their foolishness is comparable. Orange moron is head and shoulders above.
 
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As someone who experienced what happened when an extremist far left group within the opposition caused it to go completely off the rails, I really don't see any result other than Trump winning again. By a landslide.

The opposition here in the UK is Labour, and its radical far left wing is Momentum. What Labour didn't realise is that the vast majority of their supporters didn't subscribe to the radical crap coming out of Momentum - and it cost them the election when people who had voted for them for the past 40+ years had enough of all the commie/socialist/identity politics talk, and decided to switch to the Torys. Pre-election maps showed what was known as (unironically) the "Red Wall" up north. It no longer exists because the Labour leaders didn't pull hard enough on the the leashes and the attack dogs just ran riot (no pun intended).

Labour is under huge reform because of how they were annihilated at the polls. They reflected and admitted they had lost direction under Corbyn and Momentum.

The Democrats need to get their **** together and very, very quickly, or it's going to go the exact same way. You can NOT spend your campaign pandering to 14% of the population when you need to swing the majority to get you across the line. Most of that majority is still working class white. Labour forgot about them too all up and down the country to focus on multicultural hubs like London, and it cost them dearly. The Democrats have done exactly the same thing. Again.
 
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The Voice said:
The Democrats have done exactly the same thing. Again.
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The Voice said:
As someone who experienced what happened when an extremist far left group within the opposition caused it to go completely off the rails, I really don't see any result other than Trump winning again. By a landslide.

The opposition here in the UK is Labour, and its radical far left wing is Momentum. What Labour didn't realise is that the vast majority of their supporters didn't subscribe to the radical crap coming out of Momentum - and it cost them the election when people who had voted for them for the past 40+ years had enough of all the commie/socialist/identity politics talk, and decided to switch to the Torys. Pre-election maps showed what was known as (unironically) the "Red Wall" up north. It no longer exists because the Labour leaders didn't pull hard enough on the the leashes and the attack dogs just ran riot (no pun intended).

Labour is under huge reform because of how they were annihilated at the polls. They reflected and admitted they had lost direction under Corbyn and Momentum.

The Democrats need to get their **** together and very, very quickly, or it's going to go the exact same way. You can NOT spend your campaign pandering to 14% of the population when you need to swing the majority to get you across the line. Most of that majority is still working class white. Labour forgot about them too all up and down the country to focus on multicultural hubs like London, and it cost them dearly. The Democrats have done exactly the same thing. Again.
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If you look literally anywhere outside the leftist echo chamber, everything points to a landslide. If you can't see it, you know you're stuck in a seriously censored echo chamber.

You can see the same stupid and delusional behaviour from the radical left in every part of the western world. They ruin everything they get their hands on, in record time. They don't realize that what happens inside their echo chamber won't change the outcome of the election.

It's not even 14%, because a large portion of that voter base are criminals, and convicts are not eligible to vote even after being released. :laugh:

It's far, far, too late for them to get their **** together. Nothing will stop the Trump train at this point, the dems sealed their fate long ago already. It will be interesting to see what happens to them over the next 4 years.

 
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DavidFreeman said:
If you look literally anywhere outside the leftist echo chamber, everything points to a landslide. If you can't see it, you know you're stuck in a seriously censored echo chamber.

You can see the same stupid and delusional behaviour from the radical left in every part of the western world. They ruin everything they get their hands on, in record time. They don't realize that what happens inside their echo chamber won't change the outcome of the election.

It's not even 14%, because a large portion of that voter base are criminals, and convicts are not eligible to vote even after being released.

It's far, far, too late for them to get their **** together. Nothing will stop the Trump train at this point, the dems sealed their fate long ago already. It will be interesting to see what happens to them over the next 4 years.

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It's about lessons learned. In the last election we were all told constantly that Hillary was winning and there simply was no chance of any other outcome. So she persisted with identity politics which, surprise-surprise, the majority of Americans hate.

That's the thing with polls, though: they always seem to ask the wrong people what they think will happen.
 
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