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Cute, makes an massive sweeping statement disparaging the integrity of every journalist working in MSM and then shifts the burden of proof when called on it...
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US Election 2020 - Pt 2
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CaptainOblivious
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Lol, nice edit. I actually had to go watch the damn Crowder clip because of this back and forth. DavidFreeman isn't trolling though, and nor is he shifting the burden of proof. He's asking you to nominate a single journalist that you think is credible, and if you can't name one, his point stands. The fact that BadOrangeMan isn't the paragon of straight-talking is only disqualifying if you basically disqualify the entire MSM. But DavidFreeman isn't doing that. He is in fact welcoming you to read the news stories that these liars post and then do your own homework as to whether you agree with the conclusions. And you can do exactly the same with BadOrangeMan, even if it's only because you want to say OrangeManBad. And likewise for Crowder.Cute, makes an massive sweeping statement disparaging the integrity of every journalist working in MSM and then shifts the burden of proof when called on it...
The information that Crowder has regarding the elections and the dangers of mass-mailing ballots without checks and balances in place is sound, even if he is a clown. If you disagree with it, why not actually challenge what he said instead of noticing that it was Crowder who said it?
OrbitalDawn fell afoul of the same point when he tried to use Rationalwiki to discredit Unz Review or whatever it's called without even bothering to click the link of what was being presented to him. The posts you keep liking in this regard all suffer from the same fatal flaw: A false premise of respectability is assumed with regard to the establishment and then that premise is used to discount all voices that aren't part of the establishment, but that kind of respectability has never been an indication for the credibility of what is being reported.
The same thing obtains with Scudsucker who goes around telling people that he expects and acts according to objective evidence, when anyone paying even the smallest amount of attention can see that this is utter codswallop and just the bad faith sermonising of another high priest of "rationalism" who has become utterly dogmatic in the fight against dogma.
It's all part of the same pattern: make assertions and discredit anyone who disagrees with them without actually bothering to argue for the initial assertions in the first place. The way I see it, DavidFreeman isn't selling himself as a voice of truth and reason in this thread, he's just selling himself as someone who's sincerely willing to play the truth and reason game. And none of you other posers are. All we see is character assassination attempt after character assassination attempt. If Crowder is not to be believed because he clowns around, then what are we to make of the forum posters who demonstrate an inability to do anything but clown around? It seems the only thing one can do is to make fun of them.
I actually think that a large part of TDS/TAD stems from the fact that Trump is just better when it comes to playing the character assassination game, and the people who can't play the truth and reason game simply can't stand the fact that they cannot compete.
Anyway, consider this post my version of a virtue signal.
But from where I sit, you guys do nothing all day but score owngoal after owngoal. And ironically enough you all seem to have a similar ideological/political vision of the world to the point where one starts to wonder if there isn't some kind of causal connection.
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Fox News reported Trump never said that dead US troops were ‘suckers,’ but the network’s national security correspondent said ex-officials confirmed he did
Then Jennifer Griffin, a national security correspondent for the network, said in a lengthy Twitter thread that former Trump administration officials confirmed the president’s remarks to her.
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Well yes I do
Posts Steven Crowder, then talks about feels Vs facts. Ai..
How about this- next time anyone dismisses a legitimate news article purely because it's "fake MSM" I expect you to rant about shooting the messenger, ok?
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The candidate of basic sanity
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Biden: QAnon is ‘bizarre’ and ‘embarrassing,’ supporters should seek mental health treatment
Biden said the QAnon phenomenon was humiliating for the country and condemned President Donald Trump for failing to denounce it.
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden denounced the QAnon conspiracy theory as "dangerous" and "embarrassing" Friday, suggesting those that support it should seek mental health treatment.
"I've been a big supporter of mental health," Biden said. "I'd recommend the people who believe it maybe should take advantage, while it still exists, of the Affordable Care Act."
"What in God's name are we doing? Look at how it makes us look around the world. It's mortifying. It's embarrassing, and it's dangerous," Biden said. "If the president doesn't know better, which he has to know better, then my Lord we're in much more trouble than I ever thought we were."
"This can't go on. This cannot go on. It's the deconstruction of our democratic system." he added.
Biden: QAnon is ‘bizarre’ and ‘embarrassing,’ supporters should seek mental health treatment
Biden said the QAnon phenomenon was humiliating for the country and condemned President Donald Trump for failing to denounce it.
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Biden: QAnon is ‘bizarre’ and ‘embarrassing,’ supporters should seek mental health treatment
Biden said the QAnon phenomenon was humiliating for the country and condemned President Donald Trump for failing to denounce it.
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden denounced the QAnon conspiracy theory as "dangerous" and "embarrassing" Friday, suggesting those that support it should seek mental health treatment.
"I've been a big supporter of mental health," Biden said. "I'd recommend the people who believe it maybe should take advantage, while it still exists, of the Affordable Care Act."
"What in God's name are we doing? Look at how it makes us look around the world. It's mortifying. It's embarrassing, and it's dangerous," Biden said. "If the president doesn't know better, which he has to know better, then my Lord we're in much more trouble than I ever thought we were."
"This can't go on. This cannot go on. It's the deconstruction of our democratic system." he added.
Trump can't even get his alibi straight.
Fox News reported Trump never said that dead US troops were ‘suckers,’ but the network’s national security correspondent said ex-officials confirmed he did
Then Jennifer Griffin, a national security correspondent for the network, said in a lengthy Twitter thread that former Trump administration officials confirmed the president’s remarks to her.
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Why is Trump incapable of criticizing Putin???
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Donald Trump casts doubt on Navalny poisoning, saying US ‘hasn’t had any proof’
President Donald Trump said the United States must look “very seriously” into the poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, but that his administration had not yet seen any proof.
“I think we have to look at it very seriously, if it’s the case,” he said, before talking at length about his diplomatic efforts in North Korea and nuclear non-proliferation in Russia. “I don’t know exactly what happened. It’s tragic. It’s terrible, it shouldn’t happen. We haven’t had any proof yet, but I will take a look.
“It is interesting that everybody’s always mentioning Russia … but I think probably China at this point is a nation that you should be talking about much more so than Russia.”
Donald Trump says US 'hasn't had any proof' of Navalny poisoning
President says US must look seriously at case but suggests media should be looking into China
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Donald Trump casts doubt on Navalny poisoning, saying US ‘hasn’t had any proof’
President Donald Trump said the United States must look “very seriously” into the poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, but that his administration had not yet seen any proof.
“I think we have to look at it very seriously, if it’s the case,” he said, before talking at length about his diplomatic efforts in North Korea and nuclear non-proliferation in Russia. “I don’t know exactly what happened. It’s tragic. It’s terrible, it shouldn’t happen. We haven’t had any proof yet, but I will take a look.
“It is interesting that everybody’s always mentioning Russia … but I think probably China at this point is a nation that you should be talking about much more so than Russia.”
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How difficult is it to name just one journalist then? That would proof him wrong. But you can't.Cute, makes an massive sweeping statement disparaging the integrity of every journalist working in MSM and then shifts the burden of proof when called on it...
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All Trump supporters are mentally ill. Prove me wrong by naming any Trump supporter who, within the last twelve months, was assessed by a psychiatrist and was give a clean mental health bill. You have to include a copy of the medical report to substantiate your claim. Can you name even one?
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I had a nightmare about Trump last night. I dreamed that, as a gesture of good will, he embraced Shinzo Abe during a meeting, as Italian men do, but Abe didn't want to be embraced, and pushed Trump away. This angered Trump and resulted in a diplomatic rift between the USA and Japan.
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Look at you strawmaning. Good job.
Nobody is asking for extraordinary evidence that is not available to the general public.
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I'm just trying to play the game by your rules.
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Lol. Peak TDS.
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Maybe try some reading comprehension because I never suggested the "rules" that you made.
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You could simply disprove my claim by having yourself assessed by a psychiatrist and sharing the report.
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The harm that Trump is inflicting on the world is causing me anxiety which is being expressed in my dreams.
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More work, resources and time required. Not the same game. Not the same rules.
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You are a global warming denialist, so from your perspective, that may be true, but from the perspective of most scientists, his pulling America out of the Paris Agreement was a harmful move. All because he felt intimidated by Macron, who is younger and better looking than him, something that his narcissistic ego couldn't handle.
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