US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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Kieppie said:
Yeah just more evidence that the democrats are the home of the rich corporate elites. No wonder "ordinary" people are just seen as pawns.
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Lol yes, Trump pulled himself up by his bootsraps, working as a coal miner, didn't he?

That is also why the GOP focus on tax cuts for the rich.

Both parties pander to the rich corporate elites.
 
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Lol yes, Trump pulled himself up by his bootsraps, working as a coal miner, didn't he?

That is also why the GOP focus on tax cuts for the rich.

Both parties pander to the rich corporate elites.
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You're correct about his background, just like the majority of politicians. But the perception use to be that Republican represented the wealthy, now it's reversed

The fact that you mention "Tax cuts for the rich" proves you have no idea what your're talking about. That is just a canned response.

Edit : Just so that you can read for yourself.
www.washingtontimes.com

Did the Trump tax cuts really ‘work?’

Did the Trump tax cuts work? Yes — GDP growth increased, which led to significantly increased personal incomes and job creation. And the individual tax cuts primarily benefitted middle-income earners rather than the wealthy.
www.washingtontimes.com www.washingtontimes.com
 
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www.theguardian.com

Joe Biden if president will push allies like Australia to do more on climate, adviser says

Jake Sullivan says the former vice-president, if elected, won’t ‘pull any punches’ on what is a global problem
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com


Joe Biden if president will push allies like Australia to do more on climate, adviser says


Joe Biden will not pull any punches with allies including Australia in seeking to build international momentum for stronger action on the climate crisis, an adviser to the US presidential candidate has said.

If elected in November, Biden will hold heavy emitters such as China accountable for doing more “but he’s also going to push our friends to do more as well”, according to Jake Sullivan, who was the national security adviser to Biden when he was vice-president and is now in the candidate’s inner circle.

In a wide-ranging podcast interview with the Sydney-based Lowy Institute, Sullivan also signalled that Biden would work closely with Australia and other regional allies in responding to the challenges posed by the rise of China.
 
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SoldierMan said:
The alphabet agencies. Don't try and give the Democrats a pass they knew exactly what they were doing. Typical even when they get it completely wrong your loyalty stops you from acknowledging that they got it wrong. Fanboy to the end hey.
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Not really true.

The Bush admin lied about what they were saying.

www.vice.com

The CIA Just Declassified the Document That Supposedly Justified the Iraq Invasion

The National Intelligence Assessment was the classified document used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Newly declassified, it tells a much different story than the Bush administration told 12 years ago.
www.vice.com www.vice.com
Thirteen years ago, the intelligence community concluded in a 93-page classified document used to justify the invasion of Iraq that it lacked "specific information" on "many key aspects" of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs.
But that's not what top Bush administration officials said during their campaign to sell the war to the American public. Those officials, citing the same classified document, asserted with no uncertainty that Iraq was actively pursuing nuclear weapons, concealing a vast chemical and biological weapons arsenal, and posing an immediate and grave threat to US national security.
Congress eventually concluded that the Bush administration had "overstated" its dire warnings about the Iraqi threat, and that the administration's claims about Iraq's WMD program were "not supported by the underlying intelligence reporting."
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You might enjoy this book, from a really good reporter.

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

To Start a War by Robert Draper: 9780525561064 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

“Essential . . . one for the ages . . . a must read for all who care about presidential power.” —The Washington Post “Authoritative . . . The most comprehensive account yet of...
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Kieppie said:
You're correct about his background, just like the majority of politicians. But the perception use to be that Republican represented the wealthy, now it's reversed

The fact that you mention "Tax cuts for the rich" proves you have no idea what your're talking about. That is just a canned response.

Edit : Just so that you can read for yourself.
www.washingtontimes.com

Did the Trump tax cuts really ‘work?’

Did the Trump tax cuts work? Yes — GDP growth increased, which led to significantly increased personal incomes and job creation. And the individual tax cuts primarily benefitted middle-income earners rather than the wealthy.
www.washingtontimes.com www.washingtontimes.com
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lol, this dude's on crack. Just basic errors.

It was supposed to supercharge growth, business investment and take-home pay. It did none of these and instead blew a massive hole in the deficit.

www.theguardian.com

Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time

Economists calculate richest 400 families in US paid an average tax rate of 23% while the bottom half of households paid a rate of 24.2%
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
www.npr.org

After 2 Years, Trump Tax Cuts Have Failed To Deliver On GOP's Promises

The president said it would be "rocket fuel for our economy," but the Republican tax cut passed in 2017 did not pay for itself as promised — nor did it deliver a sustained boost to growth.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
www.motherjones.com

Trump's tax cuts were a disaster. Naturally, Republicans want even more.

Study up, because they're about to try again.
www.motherjones.com www.motherjones.com

Instead it was a giant hand-out to lobbyists and billionaires.

www.nytimes.com

How Big Companies Won New Tax Breaks From the Trump Administration (Published 2019)

As the Treasury Department prepared to enact the 2017 Republican tax overhaul, corporate lobbyists swarmed — and won big.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Many did, but notice something about the where the 'Nays' in the House and Senate fell?

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Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia

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List of congressional opponents of the Iraq War - Wikipedia

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Then we get this voting to condemn the president for pulling troops out of a Syrian war it never sanctioned in the first place. The Trump effect in action?

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