US Election 2020 - Pt 2

[greg0205]

Tell us. Do you agree with people who have been convicted of a crime being able to vote?

When they’ve served their time and paid their debt to society, how could you not?

 

[Kieppie]

It is a fair question that PM is asking.

Should PM not be questioning whether the emperor is indeed clothed?

No get politics out of areas in which it's not need. If the writer want's to make an Op-Ed then write it for a newspaper.
The same backlash was received for the inclusion of politics in sports at for example Dead spin. Luckily you start seeing blow back on the actual viewership numbers so the free market will rectify this

 

[Kieppie]

When they’ve served their time and paid their debt to society, how could you not?

And if part of that debt is an actual fine that is of yet unpaid?

 

[AlmightyBender]

It is a fair question that PM is asking.

Should PM not be questioning whether the emperor is indeed clothed?

SPOILER ALERT: that mofo 100% kaalgat

 

[buka001]

No get politics out of areas in which it's not need. If the writer want's to make an Op-Ed then write it for a newspaper.
The same backlash was received for the inclusion of politics in sports at for example Dead spin. Luckily you start seeing blow back on the actual viewership numbers so the free market will rectify this

Ok I see. When PM challenges your ideology and politics, it becomes an issue for you.

 

[cerebus]

Tell us. Do you agree with people who have been convicted of a crime being able to vote?

100%

And if part of that debt is an actual fine that is of yet unpaid?

100%

 

[greg0205]

And if part of that debt is an actual fine that is of yet unpaid?

That's a poll tax and there should never be a financial barrier to voting.

Ever.

 

[Kieppie]

Ok I see. When PM challenges your ideology and politics, it becomes an issue for you.

I didn't say that. I said politics should be kept out of it. People wan't to unwind with their hobbies as a form of escapism.

 

[Kieppie]

That's a poll tax and there should never be a financial barrier to voting.

Ever.

It's not a poll tax. If you're fined as punishment instead of receiving jail time, that IS your punishment. So now you're just being biased against people in jail as opposed to those fined.

You can maybe stretch it that paying legal fees is poll tax

 

[greg0205]

It's not a poll tax. If you're fined as punishment instead of receiving jail time, that IS your punishment. So now you're just being biased against people in jail as opposed to those fined.

You can maybe stretch it that paying legal fees is poll tax

If it's financial and it prevents you voting, it's a poll tax... and let's be honest with each other... you're not asking about fines for white-collar criminals who can afford them as well as good lawyers, you're talking Florida.

You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it.

 

[Kieppie]

If it's financial and it prevents you voting, it's a poll tax... and let's be honest with each other... you're not asking about fines for white-collar criminals who can afford them as well as good lawyers, you're talking Florida.

You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this knows it.

Bwhahaa again making assumptions. I've just recently stated that I wan't punishment for white collar crimes to be more in line with the punishment for murder, but suuuuure.

Luckily the Supreme court agrees with my assessment with a 6-3 ruling.

Also if you're honest with yourself you know this is just political machinations to get as many democrat votes as possible. The same with the push for early voting before any debates have taken place. The same for media spam lately.

 

[konfab]

Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein would like a word.
What utter bulls**t, konfab.

The real funny part is that little essay covered creatures like Weinstein and Epstien

“Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned, neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of money?

What does Weinstein do:

Weinstein has been active on issues such as poverty, AIDS, juvenile diabetes, and multiple sclerosis research. Until October 2017,[50] he served on the Board of the Robin Hood Foundation, a New York City-based non-profit that targets poverty, and co-chaired one of its annual benefits.[51] He has been critical of the lack of gun control laws and universal healthcare in the United States.[52]

Weinstein is a longtime supporter of and contributor to the Democratic Party, including the campaigns of President Barack Obama and presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and John Kerry.[53] He supported Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign,[54] and in 2012, he hosted an election fundraiser for Obama at his home in Westport, Connecticut.[55]

Shocker....

And look what happened to both:

In the aftermath of the sexual misconduct allegations against Weinstein, the company was forced into bankruptcy, with Lantern Entertainment purchasing all assets in 2018. The company was shut down on July 16, 2018, and the website sometime thereafter.

So he does horrible stuff and what happens? No one wants to do business with him anymore. Almost as if money is a product of virtue. When he was making entertainment for people, he was making money,

as well as organised crime and the dumb luck of birth and inheritance as virtuous then too.

Most organised crime is driven by policies made by the government. I don't think this should be news to you.
You take away the banned substances part, none of organised crime is part of the free market. Extortion, murder, theft are all major violations of individual rights. Except of course if you Black Lives Matter, then burning down a shop is a matter of principle.

dumb luck of birth and inheritance as virtuous then too.

Well inheritance is pretty virtuous if the parents worked hard to get their children a better life. Oh wait, that isn't something that progressives like, much better to have people beg the state for a handout.
But even then, if you give money to an idiot, they will burn through it quicker than anything. The adage of a fool and their money are easily parted is important here.
If someone gets a whole bunch of money and manages to hang onto it, they can only do so by providing value to other people.

 

[greg0205]

Bwhahaa again making assumptions. I've just recently stated that I wan't punishment for white collar crimes to be more in line with the punishment for murder, but suuuuure.

Luckily the Supreme court agrees with my assessment with a 6-3 ruling.

Also if you're honest with yourself you know this is just political machinations to get as many democrat votes as possible. The same with the push for early voting before any debates have taken place. The same for media spam lately.

Last I checked, the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals *wasn't* the Supreme Court, but hey, assumption and what-not.

 

[konfab]

Free market adherent, Pinochet, virtuously threw people out of helicopters.

He wasn't anything close to a free market adherent.

Chile was a weird case where there was a military dictatorship that endorsed some economic liberalisation. The military types usually think that you can run an economy in the same way you can run a military, by force. Which is why most military dictatorships choose some horrid variety of socialism.

 

[greg0205]

The real funny part is that little essay covered creatures like Weinstein and Epstien


What does Weinstein do:

Shocker....

And look what happened to both:


So he does horrible stuff and what happens? No one wants to do business with him anymore. Almost as if money is a product of virtue. When he was making entertainment for people, he was making money,


Most organised crime is driven by policies made by the government. I don't think this should be news to you.
You take away the banned substances part, none of organised crime is part of the free market. Extortion, murder, theft are all major violations of individual rights. Except of course if you Black Lives Matter, then burning down a shop is a matter of principle.


Well inheritance is pretty virtuous if the parents worked hard to get their children a better life. Oh wait, that isn't something that progressives like, much better to have people beg the state for a handout.
But even then, if you give money to an idiot, they will burn through it quicker than anything. The adage of a fool and their money are easily parted is important here.
If someone gets a whole bunch of money and manages to hang onto it, they can only do so by providing value to other people.

Can't believe I'm doing this, but...

Also, generating value and receiving compensation for such value is not a virtue. There are many professions which are not virtuous. However, assigning moral standards to the ability to vote is just utterly stupid because morality and virtue differ from person to person.

 

[Kieppie]

Last I checked, the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals *wasn't* the Supreme Court, but hey, assumption and what-not.

What are you on about?
"Three of the court’s more liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, dissented "

 

[buka001]

I didn't say that. I said politics should be kept out of it. People wan't to unwind with their hobbies as a form of escapism.

PM has been tracking and following the F-35 since its inception.

Further to that they have published articles related to various defence matters in the USA, such as budget issues and so forth.

So it is pretty much on brand.

 

[greg0205]

What are you on about?
"Three of the court’s more liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, dissented "

We've moved on since July.

Florida can bar ex-felons from voting if they owe court payments, appeals court rules

Florida can bar ex-felons from voting if they owe court fines or fees associated with their convictions, even if they are unable to pay, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.

edition.cnn.com

 

[AlmightyBender]

The real funny part is that little essay covered creatures like Weinstein and Epstien


What does Weinstein do:

Shocker....

And look what happened to both:


So he does horrible stuff and what happens? No one wants to do business with him anymore. Almost as if money is a product of virtue. When he was making entertainment for people, he was making money,


Most organised crime is driven by policies made by the government. I don't think this should be news to you.
You take away the banned substances part, none of organised crime is part of the free market. Extortion, murder, theft are all major violations of individual rights. Except of course if you Black Lives Matter, then burning down a shop is a matter of principle.


Well inheritance is pretty virtuous if the parents worked hard to get their children a better life. Oh wait, that isn't something that progressives like, much better to have people beg the state for a handout.
But even then, if you give money to an idiot, they will burn through it quicker than anything. The adage of a fool and their money are easily parted is important here.
If someone gets a whole bunch of money and manages to hang onto it, they can only do so by providing value to other people.

He wasn't anything close to a free market adherent.

Chile was a weird case where there was a military dictatorship that endorsed some economic liberalisation. The military types usually think that you can run an economy in the same way you can run a military, by force. Which is why most military dictatorships choose some horrid variety of socialism.

Demogorgon from the Upsidedown, is that you?

 

[Kieppie]

PM has been tracking and following the F-35 since its inception.

Further to that they have published articles related to various defence matters in the USA, such as budget issues and so forth.

So it is pretty much on brand.

I haven't bought an SA version in a while, but they never had any politics as far as I can remember.

The US version is focuses too much on popular and too little on mechanics. For example a "how to guide" for toppling statues. Granted there is more science in that article than the f-35 one. They just used a WaPo story.