US Election 2020 - Pt 2

[Unhappy438]

What brand is that?
They look nice.

Emile Henry, french brand.

 

[Pegasus]

Emile Henry, french brand.

Costs about the same as LeCreuset. Thanks.

 

[Kieppie]

It's sad when a man of your age cannot even be honest with himself. You would have thought life experience would actually bring about some self awareness.

Alas, this is not the case.

Edit:

Since you won't get it, I am going to spell it out. The DNC did the same to Sanders in 2016. Once again, fake moral outrage. I don't agree with it, but I can at least acknowledge that both sides do the shitty things. You won't, because like what we witnessed with AlmightyBender and a surprising number of other people, he despises the other, and thinks that his ideological beliefs make him better than them. So you would never admit it, because it's the same with you.

Don't forget Em some people only get worse with age. Look at Bernie. I believe it is a lack of intellect combined with self worth only linked to their core belief. They don't wan't to challenge that belief.

 

[Emjay]

Don't forget Em some people only get worse with age. Look at Bernie. I believe it is a lack of intellect combined with self worth only linked to their core belief. They don't wan't to challenge that belief.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks, eh?

 

[Kieppie]

Can't teach an old dog new tricks, eh?

Well my dog disproves that, but I don't know about Greg. Then again he is a Border-Collie.

 

[Emjay]

Well my dog disproves that, but I don't know about Greg. Then again he is a Border-Collie.

You are ruining childhood memories here.

Border-Collies are very smart. And cute. They can get a little testy sometimes, but overall they just want to play, be happy and loved.

I don't think it's a fair comparison.

 

[Grant]

this thread:

 

[buka001]

So then debunk it. It should be easy to refute the WELL STOCKED BIBLIOGRAPHY!



This has been debunked by other posters. Several times. Yet, here you are.




Lol, TDS here folks. WTF has the point of his story got to do with Trump?




The topic was about the origins of the virus not the response to it. Focus Doogle!




TDS and whataboutism again.




The entirety of Buka's rebuttal, an appeal to authority. Logical fallacy.



Whataboutism and as shown before, this point has been dismissed.



Now gaslighting in aisle one. As repeated ad nauseam, this has been debunked and the exact same is done by the journalists you hold in such high esteem. Hypocrisy be thy name Buka!



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The only person gaslighting here is you intimating that people who watch Tucker are morons who do no thinking of their own.

To debunk Map's of Meaning will take an entire book.

Psychologists and other scholars have done a better job at that, than me.

Strange how when I provided a rebuttal of his views on Nazis, you chose to not address that, but deflect back to DEBUNK every book in history approach.

This has been debunked by other posters. Several times. Yet, here you are.

Nobody has debunked Tuckers own lawyers saying in court, while defending Tucker that his viewers do not expect Tucker to report facts. I have the words quoted from his lawyer. Where is the debunking of that? People have whatabouted, but no one has disputed the words and argument made by his lawyers.

The topic was about the origins of the virus not the response to it. Focus Doogle!

Yes and the topic is weapons grade propaganda BS, which you suck up and believe because you lack the faculties to comprehend the obvious propaganda that is being spun to distract everyone from Trump's failing.

The entirety of Buka's rebuttal, an appeal to authority. Logical fallacy.

If you are going to use the logical fallacy argument, at least get it right. Appeal to authority fallacy is when you appeal to any authority, because of there alleged authority and not their expertise. So if I said the Actor Tom Hanks said its real, that is the appeal to authority fallacy. Referring to expert opinion on that specific subject is not an appeal to authority.

Look here, a report from May confirming its natural origin -

Genomic Study Points to Natural Origin of COVID-19

No matter where you go online these days, there’s bound to be discussion of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Some folks are even making outrageous claims that the new coronavirus causing the pa…

directorsblog.nih.gov

So while your gullibility and naivety falls for anything that distracts from the lies of Donald Trump, it does not detract from the fact that he lied. We have heard it in his own words.

He lied. I know it frustrates you and you will ignore it with infantile propaganda that insults your apparent intelligence, but hey if you want to put your foot in it and believe a guy who says you shouldn't believe him, just so you can muddy the waters about Trump's lies and incompetence, then go ahead, you just look really stupid.

 

[Emjay]

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A little honesty is always refreshing.

 

[Pegasus]

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Yup.
The least kuk oke out of two. They have over 300 million people and these two are the best.

 

[Emjay]

Yup.
The least kuk oke out of two. They have over 300 million people and these two are the best.

I think it's more like 2.5. Because Biden is barely there, and Warren is going to step in at some stage.

 

[Gnarls]

To debunk Map's of Meaning will take an entire book.

Psychologists and other scholars have done a better job at that, than me.

Then provide the proof.

Strange how when I provided a rebuttal of his views on Nazis, you chose to not address that, but deflect back to DEBUNK every book in history approach.

No, you provided an opinion piece containing walls of text and videos which you ironically accused others of providing.

Nobody has debunked Tuckers own lawyers saying in court, while defending Tucker that his viewers do not expect Tucker to report facts. I have the words quoted from his lawyer. Where is the debunking of that? People have whatabouted, but no one has disputed the words and argument made by his lawyers.

Yes, and you intimate that people can't think for themselves. Still shooting that poor messenger!

Yes and the topic is weapons grade propaganda BS, which you suck up and believe because you lack the faculties to comprehend the obvious propaganda that is being spun to distract everyone from Trump's failing.

More radioctive whataboutism, gaslighting and an ad hominem to boot.

If you are going to use the logical fallacy argument, at least get it right. Appeal to authority fallacy is when you appeal to any authority, because of there alleged authority and not their expertise. So if I said the Actor Tom Hanks said its real, that is the appeal to authority fallacy. Referring to expert opinion on that specific subject is not an appeal to authority.

No, you said it's bs becasue AstroZeneca would be shouting from the rooftops about it. The very definition of an appeal to authority because if they did say it was man made, you'd accept their position. Do you even read what you type?

Look here, a report from May confirming its natural origin -

Genomic Study Points to Natural Origin of COVID-19

No matter where you go online these days, there’s bound to be discussion of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Some folks are even making outrageous claims that the new coronavirus causing the pa…

directorsblog.nih.gov

You do know that research can be updated right? You are also familiar with whistleblower I assume?

So while your gullibility and naivety falls for anything that distracts from the lies of Donald Trump, it does not detract from the fact that he lied. We have heard it in his own words.

More whataboutism.

He lied. I know it frustrates you and you will ignore it with infantile propaganda that insults your apparent intelligence, but hey if you want to put your foot in it and believe a guy who says you shouldn't believe him, just so you can muddy the waters about Trump's lies and incompetence, then go ahead, you just look really stupid.

No, you look really stupid for not presenting a credible argument about why you don't believe the whistleblower. Instead you attack Tucker Carlson, the messenger and whatabout about Trump.

Terminal TDS folks

 

[buka001]

Then provide the proof.



No, you provided an opinion piece containing walls of text and videos which you ironically accused others of providing.




Yes, and you intimate that people can't think for themselves. Still shooting that poor messenger!


More radioctive whataboutism, gaslighting and an ad hominem to boot.




No, you said it's bs becasue AstroZeneca would be shouting from the rooftops about it. The very definition of an appeal to authority because if they did say it was man made, you'd accept their position. Do you even read what you type?



You do know that research can be updated right? You are also familiar with whistleblower I assume?



More whataboutism.



No, you look really stupid for not presenting a credible argument about why you don't believe the whistleblower. Instead you attack Tucker Carlson, the messenger and whatabout about Trump.

Terminal TDS folks

Jordan Peterson's Murky Maps of Meaning

Peterson's book is weak as anthropology, psychology, philosophy, and politics.

www.psychologytoday.com

The opinion piece analysed Petersons videos. It provided historical context and rebutted the concepts and opinions of Peterson on the Nazis. You haven't bothered to read it, it seems.

You are ridiculous if you believe COVID-19 was man made. There are several independent laboratories the world over,who have all published in peer reviewed journals about the genetic sequence and genome of the virus.

AstraZeneca are leading the race to get a vaccine. By now they would have observed the obvious tell tale signs of a man made virus.

That is actual science. Verifiable science that has been confirmed over and over again.

I assumed you were smart, but this caused me to reflect and now I know why your go to debate tactic has always been short one liners, accusing of double standards etc. I realised, you never actually argue substantively. You never put forward a view or opinion, drawing upon a source that motivates that view.

Now you fall for this propaganda.

I am sorry, but really, think for yourself! Go read the any one of the hundreds of medical journals that have analysed the virus and show it is natural.

The abject irony is you are arguing that people should be able to think for themselves when they watch Fox, but here you are arguing for a BS propaganda story they are running, without pausing for one second to go do your own research on the medical studies conducted.

You are a peach.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Not even half as interesting as the pretzel you just performed.

You just don't get it, or don't want to.

PS: You still owe me a meme ...

 

[Kieppie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1306178514786250753

So even from their own data you can see how the progressives shifted the median in just a few months. This fits with the below graph of the last decade. The left deviation is accelerating and the right did not change much. This skewed distribution makes a non normalized linear view of where the nominees lie inaccurate.

Biden moved more toward Harris in political leaning as that is more in line with where they perceive their base. His sift is especially telling if you compare it to where he was during the Obama administration.
However even the more "progressive" Harris is not ideal for the progressive base. “There’s no doubt,” he said. "Harris is an archetype of apparently not having firm commitments, so it unfortunately adds to the justified cynicism that a lot of Bernie activists and overall supporters feel."

Left wing rankled by choice of Harris for VP

"We might be looking at 12 years of neoliberal power at the top of the Democratic Party," one activist says.

www.politico.com

So the question is not if Biden "is moderate enough", it should rather be "is he progressive enough". The radical shift in someone's political leanings would give me pause. You do not need plastic politicians.

Edit : As as side not it's interesting to see the political divide worsening due to Obama & Biden

 

[Gnarls]

Jordan Peterson's Murky Maps of Meaning

Peterson's book is weak as anthropology, psychology, philosophy, and politics.

www.psychologytoday.com

The opinion piece analysed Petersons videos. It provided historical context and rebutted the concepts and opinions of Peterson on the Nazis. You haven't bothered to read it, it seems.

Unlike you, I have. Once again it is an opinion piece. I'll just post you long form debates whe JP has responded to those claims in the future and you can "have at it.'

You are ridiculous if you believe COVID-19 was man made. There are several independent laboratories the world over,who have all published in peer reviewed journals about the genetic sequence and genome of the virus.

Who said I believe her? You're the one who has his mind made up already.

AstraZeneca are leading the race to get a vaccine. By now they would have observed the obvious tell tale signs of a man made virus.

That is actual science. Verifiable science that has been confirmed over and over again.

So still appealing to authority. The virus wasn't supposed to spread from human to human too. Research can be updated. This is verifiable science but first it needs to be investigated.

I assumed you were smart, but this caused me to reflect and now I know why your go to debate tactic has always been short one liners, accusing of double standards etc. I realised, you never actually argue substantively. You never put forward a view or opinion, drawing upon a source that motivates that view.

Now you fall for this propaganda.

So in with ad homs. I'd like to note that this has been your go to in every response to me in this exchange. I'm sure Orbital will be in to quote me out of context again.

I am sorry, but really, think for yourself! Go read the any one of the hundreds of medical journals that have analysed the virus and show it is natural.

Once again, research can and is updated else we'd still believe the earth is flat.

The abject irony is you are arguing that people should be able to think for themselves when they watch Fox, but here you are arguing for a BS propaganda story they are running, without pausing for one second to go do your own research on the medical studies conducted.

You are a peach.

The abject irony of dismissing something off hand as propaganda because you don't like who is saying it but then telling me to my own research. Like I said, Buka thinks that anyone who watches anything other than his select kabal of news sources is a moron who can't think for themselves.

 

[Kieppie]

Now you fall for this propaganda.

I am sorry, but really, think for yourself! Go read the any one of the hundreds of medical journals that have analysed the virus and show it is natural.

I agree that it just escaped from their lab due to negligence. Also the virus is not deadly enough to be feasible as a weapon. Unless economic collapse was more the goal?

Anyway.. The original point was that the "mass hysterectomies" is also just a conspiracy theory at the moment and it comes coincidentally at a very opportune time.

The one claim where the wrong ovary was removed could happen and is medical negligence, but that is hardly a hysterectomy. Also all the claims coming forward is more likely to be about having a Gynecological exam rather than any surgery performed. Which is understandable considering many are conservative religious women who may not have had any such exam before.

So yeah so much for waiting for an investigation to be done. The bandwagon has been boarded and the PR damage done. Mission successful I guess?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

 

[buka001]

Unlike you, I have. Once again it is an opinion piece. I'll just post you long form debates whe JP has responded to those claims in the future and you can "have at it.'



Who said I believe her? You're the one who has his mind made up already.



So still appealing to authority. The virus wasn't supposed to spread from human to human too. Research can be updated. This is verifiable science but first it needs to be investigated.



So in with ad homs. I'd like to note that this has been your go to in every response to me in this exchange. I'm sure Orbital will be in to quote me out of context again.



Once again, research can and is updated else we'd still believe the earth is flat.



The abject irony of dismissing something off hand as propaganda because you don't like who is saying it but then telling me to my own research. Like I said, Buka thinks that anyone who watches anything other than his select kabal of news sources is a moron who can't think for themselves.

I dismissed it because the science dismissed it,not because I don't like it.

You love it, eating it up,wanting it to be true.

 

[Gnarls]

I dismissed it because the science dismissed it,not because I don't like it.

You love it, eating it up,wanting it to be true.

Lol, once again, research can be updated. You're the one who told me this when I posted Dr. Fauci's comments but I suppose you forgot that. I don't know if it is true but since you guys are so amped about whistleblowers and bounites I thought you'd at least be consistent here.

Alas, I see you graduated Cum Laude from the Greg school of strawmen and illogical rhetoric.