US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%

  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%
  • Total voters
    374
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lol at Democrats pretending to be outraged over safety of infection from Trump doing drive-by's.

Meanwhile in reality, Democrats being annoyed that Trump is back up and showing his face to the population so soon.
 
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konfab said:
This is a dumb argument.
The argument isn't whether or not a foetus is human or not. If you try and argue that, it means that you can abort a foetus 10 seconds before it is born with the same moral ramifications as taking a morning after pill. To put it more philosophically, it is a variant of the Sorites paradox.

This is why you have to consider a foetus a human from the earliest possible instance.

Rather, and this is how I look at it, the question is when is it morally (and legally) acceptable to kill a human.

There are plenty of instances where killing a human is morally acceptable. For example, if they peacefully try and take steal property, or non-violently try to kill you.
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So do you think millions of babies are being murdered every few years? When does it become murder? The earliest possible instance is pretty vague. Morning after pill? Also, saying a fetus is not a baby is not the same thing as saying it's not human.
 
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konfab said:
This is a dumb argument.
The argument isn't whether or not a foetus is human or not. If you try and argue that, it means that you can abort a foetus 10 seconds before it is born with the same moral ramifications as taking a morning after pill. To put it more philosophically, it is a variant of the Sorites paradox.

This is why you have to consider a foetus a human from the earliest possible instance.

Rather, and this is how I look at it, the question is when is it morally (and legally) acceptable to kill a human.

There are plenty of instances where killing a human is morally acceptable. For example, if they peacefully try and take steal property, or non-violently try to kill you.
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It's good and well caring about the life of the child, but what about the life of the child AFTER birth?

I am all for giving a child a chance to life and to have a chance to experience the world, but I cannot tell anyone it is their job to take care of that kid, nor can I take on a 100 kids to feed or expect someone else to feed another mouth because of morality.

While I believe abortion should exist, alternatives should exist to persuade people out of having them other than banning it/causing fear
 
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STS said:
It's good and well caring about the life of the child, but what about the life of the child AFTER birth?

I am all for giving a child a chance to life and to have a chance to experience the world, but I cannot tell anyone it is their job to take care of that kid, nor can I take on a 100 kids to feed or expect someone else to feed another mouth because of morality.

While I believe abortion should exist, alternatives should exist to persuade people out of having them other than banning it/causing fear
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Anyone who believes that abortion should be banned, is an absolute knuckle-dragger. Anyone who believes that abortions should be on demand, for any reason, is just as much a knuckle-dragger.
 
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STS said:
You implied that we can't post something or we're "intolerant"

Checkmate bimbos
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Yes, tell me where that impedes on free speech?

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