US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%
  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%

  • Total voters
    374
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rambo919

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Both interventions are high risk and fraught with complications, but to call ventilators death machines is absurd.
In the case of physical trauma yes it is absurd because the lungs themselves are still fine, in the case of lungs having been virally weakened it is a last result and from what I can gather it is a highly dangerous last result with few survivors who do not get lifelong complications.... one of these complications being needing a new set of lungs unless you are extremely lucky.
 

Kieppie

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Sorry Kieppie, you have lost the plot.
Please find proper reference to "pure covid", and not from the Facebook journal of medicine.
"Pure covid".

Btw, please don't try teach me medicine, it's apparent your grip on the subject, at very best, could only be described as "tenuous"

Again, a link to this "pure covid" if you will

Grant old buddy. The link is in the message. Click on the (6%) it will take you to the CDC page then you can read the following.

"Comorbidities
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death "
 

Kieppie

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In the case of physical trauma yes it is absurd because the lungs themselves are still fine, in the case of lungs having been virally weakened it is a last result and from what I can gather it is a highly dangerous last result with few survivors who do not get lifelong complications.... one of these complications being needing a new set of lungs unless you are extremely lucky.

I agree with the trauma by forced mechanical methods. The use of Hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) treatment is a softer approach, but more costly.

 

Kieppie

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I dont know what he meant as there is no such thing as "pure covid".

Perhaps you could elaborate as to what he meant

I didn't use that phrase originally, but as @rambo919 says I was able to ascertain what was meant by it, just like you were able to.
 

buka001

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Run out of people to insult? Bored out of your scull? Too old to allowed outside without supervision?

EDIT: Lemme help you old man, I am also a racist, homophobe, islamaphobe, transphobe, sexit, anti-semite etc..... and I dispise those damn purple people. Feel free to keep yourself busy and fill in any moronic spots I missed.
Comparing the skill and expertise of a "blood letter" to that of a doctor who has studied for nearly a decade, working with highly specialised equipment and procedures is delinquent.
 

Grant

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Grant old buddy. The link is in the message. Click on the (6%) it will take you to the CDC page then you can read the following.

"Comorbidities
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death "
Kiepps buddy.
You clearly are unable to understand what you were reading there, or the related context.

I'll help you out tho.
The clue lies here:.." the only cause MENTIONED.. "
There is no such thing as pure covid, and even less, death as a result of "pure covid"
 

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Comparing the skill and expertise of a "blood letter" to that of a doctor who has studied for nearly a decade, working with highly specialised equipment and procedures is delinquent.
No you missed the point. Those "blood letters" WERE trained professionals. It was actual accepted procedure. Just like drilling holes in skulls, which ironically worked but not for the reasons they believed.

In a 100 years people will look back at our professionals and lament how primitive and misguided they were. Your methods are only as good as what you were taught.
 

Temujin

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I dont know what he meant as there is no such thing as "pure covid".

Perhaps you could elaborate as to what he meant
Just by reading thread, the context puts my assumption on very few die from 'only/purely covid19', not 'pure' as in a different kind of covid19, one pure, the other impure(although technically in the context of there being a pure or impure, all covid19 is 'pure covid19', any 'impure' would be a new virus and get its own label:p)
 

Aquila ka Hecate

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No you missed the point. Those "blood letters" WERE trained professionals. It was actual accepted procedure. Just like drilling holes in skulls, which ironically worked but not for the reasons they believed.

In a 100 years people will look back at our professionals and lament how primitive and misguided they were. Your methods are only as good as what you were taught.
And we're still doing it.
“We always have leeches on hand,” says Vishal Thanik, a plastic surgeon at New York City’s Bellevue Hospital and New York University’s Langone Medical Center. “If you’ve ever seen a leech, it’s crazy looking. And if you’ve never had to use it, it’s daunting. It’s a bit like time traveling.”
 

Kieppie

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Kiepps buddy.
You clearly are unable to understand what you were reading there, or the related context.

I'll help you out tho.
The clue lies here:.." the only cause MENTIONED.. "
There is no such thing as pure covid, and even less, death as a result of "pure covid"
No. Mentioned does not mean "We just didn't put anything else down". That is your interpretation of it. It could be either an unknown underlying factor or just the disease itself.

If the virus does sufficient damage to the respiratory system and your body does not fight it correctly you will die. You don't need a co-morbidity. Otherwise you'll have to start claiming no one has ever died of just the flu
 

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You know, most morons that keep spouting dunning kruger effect..... clearly suffer from it themselves. Believing themselves to be way more intelligent than they actually are.

I know you are but what am i, you sure showed him Rambie.
 
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