US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%

  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%
  • Total voters
    374
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C4Cat said:
What the **** dude. Do I think that account should be closed, yes. Do I condemn pedophilia, yes. Of course. This thread is so full of BS, I'd like people to try and keep it to be about the election, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just currently so unpleasant with the aggressive insults all the ****ing time. I mean really? Now you're accusing me of supporting pedophilia because I told you to start a thread if you want to talk about it. **** off. I'm used to the insults flying here but seriously, stop being an *******.
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Not really nice to be repeatedly asked to condemn an obviously bad thing though is it?

Anyway, Twitter has actually done their job and removed the account.
 
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cerebus said:
Trump just gets more and more insane with each day that passes.

www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Threatens Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf: I’ll Withhold Federal Aid Because You Didn’t Help My Campaign

“‘Hello, Mr. President, this is Governor Wolf, I need help, I need help,’’’ Trump said at a Monday rally, mocking the state governor. “You know what? These people are bad.”
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Trump Threatens Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf: I’ll Withhold Federal Aid Because You Didn’t Help My Campaign

President Donald Trump escalated his attacks on Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf on Monday, threatening to not come to the state’s aid as the deadly COVID-19 pandemic continues to plague it. “So Tom Wolf, next time give us a little notice, governor,” Trump said Monday at the Allentown rally appearance, claiming “your governor made it almost impossible for us to find any site” for the event. “And I’ll remember it, Tom. I’m going to remember it, Tom. ‘Hello, Mr. President, this is Gov. Wolf, I need help, I need help.’ You know what? These people are bad.”
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Let me guess, the idiots in the crowd cheered him, without realising its them he is fsking over.
 
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cerebus said:
Trump just gets more and more insane with each day that passes.

www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Threatens Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf: I’ll Withhold Federal Aid Because You Didn’t Help My Campaign

“‘Hello, Mr. President, this is Governor Wolf, I need help, I need help,’’’ Trump said at a Monday rally, mocking the state governor. “You know what? These people are bad.”
www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Threatens Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf: I’ll Withhold Federal Aid Because You Didn’t Help My Campaign

President Donald Trump escalated his attacks on Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf on Monday, threatening to not come to the state’s aid as the deadly COVID-19 pandemic continues to plague it. “So Tom Wolf, next time give us a little notice, governor,” Trump said Monday at the Allentown rally appearance, claiming “your governor made it almost impossible for us to find any site” for the event. “And I’ll remember it, Tom. I’m going to remember it, Tom. ‘Hello, Mr. President, this is Gov. Wolf, I need help, I need help.’ You know what? These people are bad.”
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Gov Wolf is a class A hypocrite.

Trump also falsely claimed the governor has “the whole commonwealth” shut down and continued spreading his baseless conspiracy theory that restrictions would be lifted on the day after the election, because he believes the moves are being used to hurt his re-election effort. Wolf has aggressively fought in court to keep outdoor crowd limits to 250 people as community spread of the coronavirus has picked up throughout the late summer and fall. New case numbers are beginning to rival April’s early peaks of the outbreak in Pennsylvania.
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That is exactly what they did, that is why there is a ruthlessly damning court case against the good Gov

And according to the experts, the wuhan virus suddenly stops when you marching for black lives matter. As you can see for yourself, it is a 250 people limit for thee, no limit for me.

Wolf has done nothing but violate the rights of the people of the state. He hasn't demonstrated the least bit of competencee. He would fit right in with the ANC.

Read the judgement ruling Wolf's actions unconstitutional and tell me that he is someone you should defend.

Indefinite state of emergency:
First, the ongoing and indefinite nature of Defendants' actions weigh strongly against application of a more deferential level of review. The extraordinary emergency measures taken by Defendants in this case were promulgated beginning in March—six months ago. What were initially billed as temporary measures necessary to "flatten the curve" and protect hospital capacity have become open-ended and ongoing restrictions aimed at a very different end—stopping the spread of an infectious disease and preventing new cases from arising—which requires ongoing and open-ended efforts. Further, while the harshest measures have been "suspended," Defendants admit that they remain in-place and can be reinstated sua sponte as and when Defendants see fit. In other words, while not currently being enforced, Pennsylvania citizens remain subject to the re-imposition of the most severe provisions at any time. Further, testimony and evidence presented by Defendants does not establish any specified exit gate or end date to the emergency interventions. Rather, the record shows that Defendants view the presence of disease mitigation restrictions upon the citizens of Pennsylvania as a "new normal" and they have no actual plan to return to a state where all restrictions are lifted.
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Rules for some but not for others:
Finally, Plaintiffs make much of the fact that Defendants have provided an exception to the congregate gathering limit as applied to a major event in central Pennsylvania referred to as "Spring Carlisle," which is an auto show and flea market. (ECF 64). After being sued in the Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court because of the impact of the congregate limits on the event, Secretary Levine settled the action by giving a substantial exception for the event. Specifically, indoor occupancy was permitted up to an occupancy of 250 individuals or 50% of the maximum building occupancy. (ECF 64-1, p. 1). Outdoor occupancy was permitted up to 20,000 individuals, which is 50% of the normal capacity. (ECF No. 64-1, p. 2).
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He personally violated the rules he set out:
However, the record unequivocally shows that Defendants have permitted protests, and that the Governor participated in a protest which exceeded the limitation set forth in his order and did not comply with other restrictions mandating social distancing and mask wearing. (ECF No. 42-101).
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They pretty much sucked the definition of "life sustaining out of thin air" (rule of man, not of law)
. The record shows that Defendants never had a set definition in writing for what constituted a "life-sustaining" business. Rather, their view of what was, or was not, "life-sustaining" remained in flux. (ECF No. 75, pp. 97-98). Finally, the record shows that the definition of "life-sustaining" continued to change, even after the waiver process closed. The Business Plaintiffs argue that all of these facts highlight the constitutional infirmity of the business shutdown.
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And they were fine to close small businesses so long as the big businesses were able to be open.
Another layer of arbitrariness inherent in the business shutdown components of Defendants' orders are that many "non-life-sustaining" businesses sell the same products or perform the same services that were available in stores that were deemed "life-sustaining." For example, Plaintiff R.W. McDonald & Sons is a small appliance and furniture store that was deemed a "non-life-sustaining" business and required to close. (ECF No. 30, p. 1). But larger retailers selling the same products, such as Lowes, The Home Depot, Walmart and others remained opened.
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https://casetext.com/case/cnty-of-butler-v-wolf-1
 
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MightyQuin said:
They must also love Biden who promised to destroy Pennsylvania's biggest industry and job provider... :sneaky:
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Why are you saying that? CNN says that isn't true, therefore it must be so.

Biden's written plan proposes "banning new oil and gas permitting on public lands and waters," not ending all new fracking anywhere or ending all existing fracking on public lands and waters. Biden has explicitly said he does not support a nationwide fracking ban (though in part because he doesn't believe such a ban would pass). However, he's also pledged to "establish an enforcement mechanism to achieve net-zero emissions no later than 2050," which would almost certainly require a significant reduction in fracking.
There is some basis for the Trump campaign's continued attacks against Biden's stance on fracking. During the July 2019 Democratic primary debate, CNN's Dana Bash asked whether there would be "any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking, in a Biden administration?" to which Biden responded, "No, we would -- we would work it out. We would make sure it's eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those, either -- any fossil fuel."
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edition.cnn.com

Fact Check: Misleading new Trump ad claims Biden plans to 'end fracking'

Less than two weeks before Election Day, a new Trump campaign ad scheduled to air in Pennsylvania misleadingly portrays former Vice President Joe Biden's stance on fracking, a drilling method used to extract oil or natural gas.
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Unhappy438 said:
Who said they must love their governor, strawfab strikes again.
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So Pennsylvania does NOT love their Dem governor? Good to know....

Still running with this losing strategy :ROFL:
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The Dems sure are.....

But keep fooling yourself....I'm 100% sure you didn't even watch that clip. The man cannot even finish a coherent sentence...his mind definitely is stuttering, not his mouth.
 
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