US Election 2020 - Pt 3

[copacetic]

What is my case?

It's politics. Everybody spins. And Trump is in real estate, so he is going to use more adverbs and adjectives than most.

Broadly (and in the context of our interaction on this so far), that Trump is really no different in how much he lies to people.

 

[Pegasus]

Broadly (and in the context of our interaction on this so far), that Trump is really no different in how much he lies to people.

How would you rate those 3 often repeated lies that I posted?

 

[copacetic]

How would you rate those 3 often repeated lies that I posted?

I don't have much of an opinion. As I said, I'm not commenting on any particular claims, just that Trump really does have a long history of lying through his teeth. Cherry-picking particular items to quibble about gets us nowhere, and misses the point.

 

[Pegasus]

I don't have much of an opinion. As I said, I'm not commenting on any particular claims, just that Trump really does have a long history of lying through his teeth. Cherry-picking particular items to quibble about gets us nowhere, and misses the point.

Fair enough.

Do you think the media lies?

 

[Temujin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312006888729477121

 

[copacetic]

Fair enough.

Do you think the media lies?

Of course the media lies. But it serves no purpose throwing the baby out with the bathwater - All we can do is be as objective as possible with the information presented to us, and make an effort to fact-check for ourselves in relation to issues that are important to us / that we might want to comment on.

*edit*

But as I said previously, I don't see much value in dissecting every little thing, as it tends to lead to a bunch of bullshit bickering, since people are not great at being objective, and they tend to let their emotions get in the way.

 

[Pegasus]

It's like the media don't remember things like this.

Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists

President Trump has signed a resolution condemning white supremacists following violence at a rally in Charlottesville, Va., last month, the White House announced late Thursday.”As Americans,…

thehill.com

 

[daveza]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1311923016620748802

 

[buka001]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1312006888729477121

Ummmm.

Talk about missing the point.

Had Hope worn a mask, or the person who gave it to her worn a mask, the risk to Trump would have been lower.

 

[Temujin]

It's like the media don't remember things like this.

Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists

President Trump has signed a resolution condemning white supremacists following violence at a rally in Charlottesville, Va., last month, the White House announced late Thursday.”As Americans,…

thehill.com

Meh, ambiguity and deflection... he needs to condemn white supremacy, why won't he just do it? what is he waiting for?

 

[ISP cash cow]

As an added bonus this news has provided some serious eye-candy.

Dayim but this one is hot !

Very Keri Russel.

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Yeah she is hot and I also think that Kayleigh McEnany is a hottie as well. Must say one thing for Donnie, he knows how to pick them.

Thinking though I wonder how close Donnie got to Hope to contract the virus.

 

[AlmightyBender]

Thinking though I wonder how close Donnie got to Hope to contract the virus.

 

[ISP cash cow]

This one 360 times apparently.

What a terrible person!

“We built the greatest economy in history, not only for our country, but for the world. We were number one, by far.”

FACT CHECK:
Before the coronavirus pandemic shuttered businesses and sent unemployment soaring, the president could certainly brag about the state of the economy in his first three years as president. But he ran into trouble when he made a play for the history books to say it was the best economy in U.S. history. By just about any important measure, the economy under Trump did not do as well as it did under Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson or Bill Clinton. The gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 2.3 percent in 2019, slipping from 2.9 percent in 2018 and 2.4 percent in 2017. But in 1997, 1998 and 1999, GDP grew 4.5 percent, 4.5 percent and 4.7 percent, respectively. Yet even that period paled in comparison against the 1950s and 1960s. Growth between 1962 and 1966 ranged from 4.4 percent to 6.6 percent. In postwar 1950 and 1951, it was 8.7 percent and 8 percent, respectively. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate reached a low of 3.5 percent under Trump, but it dipped as low as 2.5 percent in 1953. (After the virus tanked the economy, Trump jacked up his claim even more, falsely saying it had been the greatest economy in the history of the world.)

REPEATED 360 TIMES:

I am a bit confused what you are trying to post here.

His claim was that he had built the greatest economy in history not only for the US but in the world, however the fact check found that he did not even meet up to previous American presidents for the US economy (not even taking other countries economy into consideration),

therefore his claim he had built the greatest economy in history is false

What am I missing?

 

[scudsucker]

I am a bit confused what you are trying to post here.

...

What am I missing?

Peggy doesn't mind the lie at all.

He wants the three hundred and sixty times that particular lie was told to count as one lie, thereby reducing the sum total of lies spewed from the Cheeto Faced **** Gibbon's frothy mouth.

 

[ISP cash cow]

Another horrible lie.

Because he is including rebuilding the old broken wall.

“And we're also -- on the southern border, as you know, the wall is going up. It's going up very rapidly. We're at 182 miles.”

FACT CHECK:
Only three miles of the border barrier being constructed by Trump close off parts of the border that did not previously have a barrier. The rest of the new construction is replacement fencing. The "wall" as promised will not be complete by 2021.

REPEATED 261 TIMES:

261 times! OMG!

So 600 plus of 20 000 are just these two.

Again this is also misrepresentation he claims the wall is going "up" yet most of it was replacement of previous structures and so only 3 miles of wall was actually put "up"

So I don't see how it can be seen as the fact check lying, when it is him making misrepresentations to the public on how much of his "build the wall" had happened.

P.S: Did Mexico actually pay for the wall yet?

 

[Pegasus]

I am a bit confused what you are trying to post here.

His claim was that he had built the greatest economy in history not only for the US but in the world, however the fact check found that he did not even meet up to previous American presidents for the US economy (not even taking other countries economy into consideration),

therefore his claim he had built the greatest economy in history is false

What am I missing?

To me it's just a guy who is proud of his country and is bragging.

To WaPo, who hate him, it's 360 lies.

 

[access]

what a terrible debate, candidates and host.

also, interesting body language moments going on there and trump getting emotional too quick.


whats with the wire biden was adjusting?

 

[ISP cash cow]

To me it's just a guy who is proud of his country and is bragging.

To WaPo, who hate him, it's 360 lies.

But its a lie

If I tell everyone that I am hung like a horse, I may be bragging but I am still lying

 

[Pegasus]

But its a lie

If I tell everyone that I am hung like a horse, I may be bragging but I am still lying

 

[Pegasus]

Again this is also misrepresentation he claims the wall is going "up" yet most of it was replacement of previous structures and so only 3 miles of wall was actually put "up"

So I don't see how it can be seen as the fact check lying, when it is him making misrepresentations to the public on how much of his "build the wall" had happened.

P.S: Did Mexico actually pay for the wall yet?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1290300904978219009