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The Trutherizer
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That is all fine and well that republican lawmakers are even potentially, considering this move, but they should not forget. It is in fact illegal.Here’s the disturbing reason Republicans are staying mostly silent about Trump’s attempted coup
Here's the disturbing reason Republicans are staying mostly silent about Trump's attempted coup
Donald Trump and his, uh, lawyer Rudy Giuliani are moving into the next phase of Trump's attempted coup, which entertainingly involves Giuliani sweating out the previous day's martinis into his hair dye while barking incomprehensible conspiracy theories at bewildered reporters.Unfortunately, the...www.rawstory.com
Donald Trump and his, uh, lawyer Rudy Giuliani are moving into the next phase of Trump’s attempted coup, which entertainingly involves Giuliani sweating out the previous day’s martinis into his hair dye while barking incomprehensible conspiracy theories at bewildered reporters.
Unfortunately, the less amusing and more worrisome aspect of the whole ordeal involves Trump’s efforts to lean on Republican-run state legislatures to appoint pro-Trump electors in states where Joe Biden clearly won.
Like most people reading this, I, too, wish I had a crystal ball and could look into the future at Jan. 20, 2021, to see how this all shakes out. In the meantime, the main point of concern is that nearly all Republican politicians are, to one degree or another, supporting Trump’s efforts. Some, like Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, are flirting with openly seditious behavior by actively trying to get legal ballots thrown in the trash. Most, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, are playing word games to avoid saying who they think will be or should be sworn as president in two months. The only Republican senator to speak out so far is Mitt Romney of Utah, who was also the only Republican senator who voted to convict Trump after his impeachment trial earlier this year.
The common theory in the political class is that this silence is borne out of fear of Trump and his tweeting fingers. Former President Barack Obama, who has been blunt in his concerns about the threat Trump represents to our democracy, characterized the GOP’s passive consent to this coup exactly this way.
“I’m more troubled that you’re seeing a lot of Republican officials go along with it, not because they actually believe it, but because they feel intimidated by it,” Obama told MSNBC’s Jonathan Capehart on Thursday.
Obama is right on two out of three counts. It’s true that Republican officials don’t believe a word of Giuliani’s sweaty conspiracy theories, which Heather Digby Parton has described as “going full Infowars.” It’s also true that this GOP compliance is the real problem here. As I explain in the latest Standing Room Only newsletter, successful coups rely on various bureaucrats and lower level politicians who go along. If Trump pulls this off, it will be entirely because he has the tacit support of both state and congressional Republicans all along the way.
They should also not forget that the governor of Michigan can do something that only the president, or another state governor can do.
They are legally entitled to declare martial law. And Michigan's governor is a democrat.
You can't in fact simply nab an entire state.
The Trutherizer
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Oh dear... Republican dudes voting with their son's and mother's ballots.
Now this.
My goodness but some cups seem to overfloweth rather bountifully of that which they are full of.
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Too bad he had to leave!
This was pure comedy.
EDIT: looks like he's back but case is basically finished, just waiting for closing arguments now.
Read from bottom to top
More here: https://twitter.com/tomryanlaw
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This cant be true, its a hoax, and cocaine is a good vaccine against it.
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Donald Trump Jr. tests positive for COVID-19
Trump Jr. is the second of the president's children to test positive.
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Trump is in ‘desperation mode’ as Michigan officials say they can’t overturn election for him
Trump is in 'desperation mode' as Michigan officials say they can't overturn election for him: CNN
According to CNN White House correspondent Joe Johns, Donald Trump is in "desperation mode" as he pins his hopes on stealing away Michigan's 16 Electoral College votes in his bid to remain in office.With Georgia certifying their votes totals and handing the state to President-elect Joe Biden...
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According to CNN White House correspondent Joe Johns, Donald Trump is in “desperation mode” as he pins his hopes on stealing away Michigan’s 16 Electoral College votes in his bid to remain in office.
With Georgia certifying their votes totals and handing the state to President-elect Joe Biden, the president has been pushing for help from Republican officials in Michigan to contest votes in their state at the same time lawmakers in the state are brushing aside the president’s assertions about election irregularities.
Speaking with hosts Jim Sciutto and Poppy Harlow, Johns said things are not going the president’s way.
Michigan Republicans announce ‘we will follow the law’ after meeting with Trump: report
Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and House Speaker Lee Chatfield met with President Donald J. Trump Friday to discuss the outcome of the 2020 presidential election in their state. Following their meeting, Shirkey and Chatfield released a joint statement.“We have not yet been made...
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Trump campaign loses again in court — this time to G. Gordon Liddy’s son
Trump campaign loses again in court — this time to G. Gordon Liddy’s son
President Donald J. Trump's campaign lost again in court Friday, this time in Maricopa County.Judge Mahoney said, "I will be dismissing the complaint with prejudice. I have heard what I needed to hear today."Maricopa County lawyer Tom Liddy then defended the county's election that resulted in...
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President Donald J. Trump’s campaign lost again in court Friday, this time in Maricopa County.
Judge Mahoney said, “I will be dismissing the complaint with prejudice. I have heard what I needed to hear today.”
Maricopa County lawyer Tom Liddy then defended the county’s election that resulted in President-elect Biden winning the state of Arizona. Liddy is former FBI agent George Gordon Battle Liddy’s son. George was involved in the Watergate scandal as the chief operative in the White House Plumbers unit during the Nixon Administration.
G. Gordon Liddy's Son Sentenced 5 Years Probation for Possessing Child Porn
Raymond Liddy — a former deputy attorney general and a son of central Watergate figure G. Gordon Liddy — was sentenced Wednesday in San Diego federal court to five years of probation for possessing child pornography at his Coronado home. Liddy was found to be in possession of sexually explicit...
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Ex-California prosecutor, son of G. Gordon Liddy, convicted of possessing child porn
Raymond Liddy, a former California state prosecutor and son of Watergate break-in organizer Gordon Liddy, was convicted Wednesday of possessing child pornography.
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NarrowBandFtw
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if the lawsuits were frivolous ... filing complaints would be entirely unnecessary, the courts will slap him down
only reason to file complaints at this particular point in time is to frustrate the process itself ... oh I wonder what possible motivation could there be for that
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GA was the first domino, Maricopa in AZ is the second.
As they say, it’ll happen slowly at first, then all at once.
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The courts *have* slapped him down.
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Oh, you mean the cousin f**ker... No, no they haven't .
His boss on the other hand.
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jesus, I thought believing you "won" the election would help you return to normal ... so much for that
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This is no laughing matter though.
[This is going to be a bit of an essay - I don't know how accurate it all is, but it is my take on the matter. It's probably not even the whole story.]
There is a reason why Trump was able to easily get his hooks into these people. The average American worker really is desperate for a return to the days when a hardworking person could earn an honest and prosperous living in a good old American factory. A time when they did not see immigrants from poor countries happily take the remaining menial jobs for less pay. Of course the whole lot are basically immigrant for the most part if you go back a few generations. A whole debate can be had around that point alone.
The thing for the endangered American blue collar worker right here at this point in time is this though.
"Bill Clinton's" policy changes with regards to open trade with China as well as NAFTA really did pull the rug out from underneath their feet.
It doesn't matter that "Nixon" laid the foundations to open trade with China, and "Reagan" normalised relations which got that ball rolling.
It doesn't matter that NAFTA was "Reagan's" brain child, "Bush Sr" negotiated it, and "Clinton" was merely left holding the pen.
Mr Clinton put ink to paper. That is all that matters to them.
[If you noticed the quotes - They are there for a reason. What the money wants - The money gets.]
All the American worker knew and still know, is that they are desperate. Filled with dread for their own futures. And somebody was dangling mighty hopeful looking bait.
Somebody they put Mrs Clinton up against to run. The wife of "the villain" in the story of their own waning prosperity. It didn't help that she had been idealistically pushing real hard for all forms of globalisation for almost all her adult life.
In reality any old angler fish could win that race on that alone. Too bad the biggest one that came along had the ambitions of a despot.
But even that played in his favour. The situation had, for them, deteriorated to the point where a Despot was looking like a somewhat viable option.
Believing that their last hope might just be a king, a "strong man", a "conquering emperor".
Strong enough to fix all their woes.
A veritable Marvel'esque super hero.
A new religion.
A few catchy dog whistles.
All too easy.
They say all the world is a stage. American politics certainly reaffirms that notion. Too bad not enough people see that the bit of the stage located in the US is actually made up of the backs of the American blue collar worker. But then... At one point it was the backs of slaves. Who's backs are next I wonder? Will there be any more backs?
To any reasonable and objective observer, Trump very likely used them as political cannon fodder.
All the right promises were made. But...
Mexicans didn't pay for the wall.
What did get wrought at the border is basically just a shinier sieve.
Coal's prospects have never looked worse. But then... That was never a victim of globalisation. Rather of automation and technological progress. A clever little diversification on an already chaotic theme.
Trump's "tough stance" on China had more to do with opening up the Chinese banking and insurance market to American investors than anything else. And China is still not playing fair.
The deal that replaced NAFTA, is so similar to NAFTA, that they might as well have kept the old name.
The factories did not return.
As much social protection and assistance as possible has been terminated. They have even been incensed against the notion.
Trump even dismantled unions and safety and environmental regulations designed to protect them. (not that the unions didn't play a wilfully ignorant role in this sad story)
He managed to convince them that, if only they would forego as much support as possible (extraneous, and "suspiciously communist" expenses) - Then he would save them.
For all that... He was the first person this century who managed to really convince them, deep in their hearts, that they still have a chance. For all that it was clearly just another Trump™ con.
And they've been running blindly on that hope ever since.
American politics since the Reagan/Thatcher era really is more tragedy than anything else.
Little more than a Plutocracy.
And although I find the cognitive dissonance among Trump supporters tragic, in some cases I even despise it - I do understand.
And now the US stands - A country divided - An unbearably uncomfortable standoff.
The world, and certainly the US itself, should hope that Biden does better.
Desperation can get very ugly.
With the 4IR, and environmental change, looming it could get much worse.
And Mrs Clinton seems to have been right in the end - We're all in this together.
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as already stated, let me type it s-l-o-w-l-y ...
... if it was frivolous, the court will counter it, courts do not tolerate frivolous lawsuits and do not need anybody to draw their attention to them, ergo: filing a complaint for something that will already be picked up and already be countered IF it in fact is happening is entirely unnecessary
when you see somebody running a red light with the traffic light camera flashing to take their picture, do you go to your nearest police station to report it or is it unnecessary?
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Yeah I actually re-read it afterwards and got what you were originally trying to say. I even tried to delete the reply, but no such luck.
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ah ok fair enough
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Been riffing on Rudy and his cousin/wife for a while now... But maybe it's the incivility of settling on "cousin f**ker" that's offending your delicate sensibilities.
Well damn, NBFtw, that's just awful for you.
Anyway, won't be stopping anytime soon.
Also, I'll be adding to the riff with his hair-crying-when-he-speaks, and I feel we need to discuss his horse teeth collection, you know, the one he keeps in his mouth... his day-drinking... and the fact that the last time he and Joe Pesci played lawyers was in 1992.
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