US Election 2020 - The Result

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konfab

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Right?! The filthy hoors!

...and yet you bravely assert you're not a misogynist. Adorable.
I am being misogynistic for expecting woman to understand that if they have sex, they have a good probability of getting pregnant?
Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
 

konfab

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"Expecting women to understand"? "If they have sex"?

No responsibility on men to mitigate risk, apparently.

All *women* and *they*.
Did I state that men shouldn't take responsibility?

It is always up to a woman's decision. The decision I am talking about is the decision that a woman makes to have sex with a man. Once she makes that decision, she is bound by any consequences that arise from said decision.
This is the same rule that applies to men. If a man decides to have sex with a woman, it is perfectly fair to expect him to pay for any child that results from his actions.

And society actually does give woman an out after that, it is perfectly legal to give a child up for adoption if she doesn't want it. That is a privilege that isn't granted to men with regards to the paying for the upkeep of said child.

It is when the decision wasn't made by choice where abortion starts being justifiable. Rape for example is not someone choice, hence holding them bound by its consequences is wrong. Same thing if there is danger to the mother's life.

And I would extend this to the non-child aspects of sex. The men who stick their d!ck in crazy, then expect that nothing bad will come of it get very little sympathy from me.
 

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I am being misogynistic for expecting woman to understand that if they have sex, they have a good probability of getting pregnant?
Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Modern methods of contraception are a lot more effective than that....

The pill is generally 99% effective, do you regard 1% as a good probability?
 

konfab

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Modern methods of contraception are a lot more effective than that....

The pill is generally 99% effective, do you regard 1% as a good probability?
I wouldn't say the pill is 99% effective seeing that people are terrible at keeping routines.

Nevertheless, a 0.05% probability is not zero. My wife currently has an IUD at the moment because it is risky for her to get pregnant (she gave birth 3 months ago). Yet the chance is still there.
 

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I wouldn't say the pill is 99% effective seeing that people are terrible at keeping routines.

Nevertheless, a 0.05% probability is not zero. My wife currently has an IUD at the moment because it is risky for her to get pregnant (she gave birth 3 months ago). Yet the chance is still there.
You think Trump use the pill?
 

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Modern methods of contraception are a lot more effective than that....

The pill is generally 99% effective, do you regard 1% as a good probability?
There is no method of contraception that is immune to either idiocy or chance.

Sex = children, this is true for all participants not just whoever can manage to gain the most sympathy.
 

konfab

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You think Trump use the pill?
Unlike some people, Trump doesn't have a problem with figuring out he is actually a man. So I doubt he has ever battled with this question.

This is a challenging task for progressives though.
And, you know, what that means is that just because a woman — or let’s also not forget someone in the trans community, a trans female — is poor, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the right to exercise that right to choose. And so I absolutely would cover


If you’re a trans woman, you may not have given much thought to Pap tests and cervical cancer. And if you haven’t, that makes a fair amount of sense. After all, in order to get cervical cancer, you need to have a cervix — that is, the organ that connects the vagina to the uterus.

If you’re a trans woman and have not had bottom surgery, you aren’t at risk for cervical cancer.
 

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I wouldn't say the pill is 99% effective seeing that people are terrible at keeping routines.

Nevertheless, a 0.05% probability is not zero. My wife currently has an IUD at the moment because it is risky for her to get pregnant (she gave birth 3 months ago). Yet the chance is still there.
Not zero but not a good probability either... the whole "sex always equals children" is archaic and silly.
 

konfab

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Konfab only has sex to pro create.
I consider that a value added benefit. :D

If my wife gets pregnant whilst she has the IUD, we would carry the pregnancy to term. Not that this is a scenario that keeps me up at night with the low probability of it happening.
 

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killing innocent children
i) Absolutely not what abortion is about - Removing a tumour is more of an event but thanks for investing it with all those useful feelings.
ii) You adopted many unwanted children lately? You know, just to prove your empty point?
 
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