US Election 2020 - The Result

[konfab]

What I will say on the abortion debate, the same people who argue against abortion, will un-ironically argue for the dissolution of the WHO or World Food Program, just because Trump was angry.

Two organisations that have worked for decades on improving nutrition for mothers and children in under developed countries and regions and have saved thousands of children's lives.

Says a lot about the anti-abortion stance.

For example, does the WFP say is the problem with Zimbabwe? It certainly cannot be their socialist land reform program and complete lack of property rights?

The factors which have exacerbated Zimbabwe’s food security situation to “serious” according to the 2017 Global Hunger Index (where it ranked 108th of 119) are manifold. Widespread poverty, HIV/AIDS, limited employment opportunities, liquidity challenges, recurrent climate-induced shocks and economic instability all contribute to limiting adequate access to food.

Low-productivity agricultural practices and lack of access to markets are also affecting the food security of the vast majority of rural Zimbabweans, whose livelihoods depend on rain-fed agricultural production. Undernutrition rates are high, especially in rural districts where diets lack diversity – maize being the main staple – and are poor in essential nutrients.

https://www.wfp.org/countries/zimbabwe

There is one cause and one cause alone for the state of Zimbabwe's malnutrition and that was the policy of their government around who should own land. Yet the WFP and WHO are seemingly incapable of saying this.

So don't come here and pontificate about caring about people when the people who you say do "care" , blatantly ignore the link between property rights and agricultural productivity.

 

[rambo919]

Biologically maybe, but we have moved on as a civilization where we are no longer bound by biological imperatives. "Purpose" has zero impact on the discussion as we can act against biological urgings if we choose... Just because your moral and religious mindset make it true for you doesn't mean the rest of the world should be held to your standards.

BS, we have not "evolved" beyond our core imperatives, we have simply added on modifiers, the core remains unchanged. If you believe the modifiers somehow became the new core imperatives you are by definition delusional.

This aspect itself has nothing to do with morals or religion, it simply is.

 

[Cray]

Yes exactly. Men can now be women, fall pregnant and have an abortion, if they wake up one Tuesday afternoon and feel like it.

Biological reality doesn't exist, just believe.

Yeah I know, and people can have sex and not fall pregnant. I know this is all very new and scary for you Rietrot, but am sure you are mature enough to deal with it, I believe in you!

 

[greg0205]

More senior appointments made by the Biden administration who are not part of the AOC cabal. Excellent work.

Secretary of State: Anthony Blinken (served under Clinton and Obama administrations)
National Security Advisor: Jake Sullivan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1330722015028805632

 

[buka001]

For example, does the WFP say is the problem with Zimbabwe? It certainly cannot be their socialist land reform program and complete lack of property rights?

https://www.wfp.org/countries/zimbabwe

There is one cause and one cause alone for the state of Zimbabwe's malnutrition and that was the policy of their government around who should own land. Yet the WFP and WHO are seemingly incapable of saying this.

So don't come here and pontificate about caring about people when the people who you say do "care" , blatantly ignore the link between property rights and agricultural productivity.

Literally what has that got to do with what they have done to save the lives of thousands of children the world wide?

The WFP and WHO do not exist to push your agendas.

 

[Chunk20]

Let me mention Greta as well.

Seems to have a women problem makes sense

 

[Cray]

BS, we have not "evolved" beyond our core imperatives, we have simply added on modifiers, the core remains unchanged. If you believe the modifiers somehow became the new core imperatives you are by definition delusional.

So all those people who have sex without falling pregnant are, in your mind, delusional because they do it for pleasure rather than it's "actual purpose?"

All those people who have full and happy sex lives while being childless...? If anyone is delusional here, it is you...

 

[rietrot]

Yeah I know, and people can have sex and not fall pregnant. I know this is all very new and scary for you Rietrot, but am sure you are mature enough to deal with it, I believe in you!

Yes they can. But if a man accidentally fall pregnant on a day which he identified as an attack helicopter he can and should get an abortion after 8 months when he realize he was actually born with a womb.

Birth control is transphobic.

 

[rambo919]

So all those people who have sex without falling pregnant are, in your mind, delusional because they do it for pleasure rather than it's "actual purpose?"

Pretty much yes. And the delusion gets a violent shock when it meets reality which is why these people are so rabidly pro-abortion.

All those people who have full and happy sex lives while being childless...? If anyone is delusional here, it is you...

It's an imitation of a full life, nothing more. It's like comparing masturbation to sex. They simulate a full life.

 

[rambo919]

Yes they can. But if a man accidentally fall pregnant on a day which he identified as an attack helicopter he can and should get an abortion after 8 months when he realize he was actually born with a womb.

Birth control is transphobic.

You seem to have become one with social justice.....

 

[konfab]

Biologically maybe, but we have moved on as a civilization where we are no longer bound by biological imperatives. "Purpose" has zero impact on the discussion as we can act against biological urgings if we choose... Just because your moral and religious mindset make it true for you doesn't mean the rest of the world should be held to your standards.

Because the human mind is certainly not a product of thousands of years of evolution.

Take cosmetics for example:

It turns out that the skin color around our eyes and mouths is darker than that of the rest of our faces. This holds true for both sexes, but the contrast is more pronounced on women. In study 1, Russell established the latter fact using photos of East Asians and Caucasians. Using software that calculates skin luminance of various facial regions, Russell confirmed that the facial contrast was greater on women’s faces as compared to men’s across the two cultural samples. In study 2, Russell manipulated an androgynous face by making it appear more masculine or feminine via an altering of the aforementioned facial contrast. Participants subsequently evaluated the transformed faces and in line with his prediction, Russell found that by altering the facial contrast, this yielded a corresponding change in how masculine or feminine the particular face was perceived to be (greater facial contrast implies a more feminine face). Finally, in study 3, women were asked to apply cosmetics on their faces, as they would do normally. Photos were taken pre and post application of the cosmetics, and using the same procedure as that of study 1, Russell found that all faces exhibited greater facial contrast after the application of make-up.


Bottom line: Cosmetics are used to accentuate an existing sex difference in facial contrast. This does not mean that women engage in this beautification practice with knowledge of this sexual dimorphism. Rather, as Darwinian beings, we are all aware of certain realities even though we cannot necessarily enunciate consciously the evolutionary genesis of the phenomenon in question.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/za/blog/homo-consumericus/201406/why-do-women-apply-facial-cosmetics

 

[Chunk20]

Pretty much yes. And the delusion gets a violent shock when it meets reality which is why these people are so rabidly pro-abortion.

It's an imitation of a full life, nothing more. It's like comparing masturbation to sex. They simulate a full life.

lol

 

[rambo919]

Because the human mind is certainly not a product of thousands of years of evolution.

I DO find it interesting how the same people can proclaim evolution is an irrefutable fact one moment and then selectively ignore it another......

 

[Cray]

It's an imitation of a full life, nothing more. It's like comparing masturbation to sex. They simulate a full life.

Whatever makes you sleep well at night, am pretty certain most of them are perfectly happy with their lives despite you calling it counterfeit.... So what constitutes a full life in your view? Maybe list the highlights so we can all see how empty our lives are according to you?

 

[rustypup]

Just because your moral and religious mindset make it true for you doesn't mean the rest of the world should be held to your standards.

Even worse, they speak from ignorance, appealing to feelings more than reason and steadfastly refuse to engage in facts.

Like the fact that pregnancies naturally terminate all the time, unaided. Which isn't *fair* because dirty sluts must *suffer* for their sin of being human.

 

[Cray]

Yes they can. But if a man accidentally fall pregnant on a day which he identified as an attack helicopter he can and should get an abortion after 8 months when he realize he was actually born with a womb.

Birth control is transphobic.

Am not sure who you are having this conversation with but it certainly isn't me, run along with your silly little right wing zingers, am really not interested.

 

[konfab]

Even worse, they speak from ignorance, appealing to feelings more than reason and steadfastly refuse to engage in facts.

Yet there was this completely stoic comment from you:​

We get it. You hate both women *and* children.

The real question is, why? - no response necessary in this thread.

Like the fact that pregnancies naturally terminate all the time, unaided. Which isn't *fair* because dirty sluts must *suffer* for their sin of being human.

"People die all the time from natural causes, therefore there is no reason why murder should be illegal"

Yet you are the one trying to claim the moral high ground by telling everyone your opponents appeal to feelings more than reason.

The key moral issue with abortion is when does a foetus gain legal protection from being intentionally killed. This has a deeper problem as it falls under the sorites paradox.

Sorites paradox - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cray]

Perhaps this conversation needs to break out to another thread before the mods rightly delete all these posts....

 

[rambo919]

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[Chunk20]

Perhaps this conversation needs to break out to another thread before the mods rightly delete all these posts....

Maybe it finally shows cant defend Donnie anymore