US Election 2020 - The Result

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SoldierMan

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Oh the irony.

This is from Trump's twitter, right now.
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Yet the transition process has started. If he wins in court, he doesn't concede. If he loses in court he concedes and the transition to handover has already begun.... what's so hard to understand my liberal friend??
 

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These Trumptards don't understand that a Dicktator remains a Dicktator even after he is given the boot, just like Zupta.

Bwahahaha to be a dictator you need to act like a dictator, you need to implement certain laws, stomp on people's rights, etc., etc. Trump has done none of that my sad liberal friend.

It's like saying Obama was a dictator, it makes zero sense. Unless you have something to actually backup your claim of dictator??!! It would be a first for you, you know to actually back up that usual nonsense that you post. All ears my man.....
 

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There are probably cases of fraud in every single election ever. Mostly isolated and from rabid supporters of a candidate. So there would always be fraud in this election of some kind, from both sides. Just not the massive, synchronized and systematic fraud involving thousands of co-conspirators that Trump's legal team are implying.
Yeah, I don't get why this is not obvious to people. The process played out, slightly more people in the US were fed up with Trump than not, and I mean it is troubling the comparatively small margin that were fed up with four years of his "style". But enough of a margin to give it to Joe.
 

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Yet the transition process has started. If he wins in court, he doesn't concede. If he loses in court he concedes and the transition to handover has already begun.... what's so hard to understand my liberal friend??

If he succeeds in stealing the election he's a successful dictator, if he fails he's an unsuccessful dictator. Either way....
 

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I've always been intrigued as to the dynamics of red & blue. So, just for a bit of fun(and if you can be bothered):

Here's a question for each of you:

@SoldierMan :
If you lived in a US blue state, would you be willing to relocate to a red state, who's laws/policies remained red, permanently? So, iow, no crazy blue laws like slicing body-parts off or men running around in drag, or 6-year-olds being taught they have a right to choose their gender or those laws tolerant of lazy, nit-infested students who are too cool for school and prefer to sit and smoke dope all day without their parents giving a damn. Let's say you also knew the next blue potus would be another Hilary Clinton, or worse.

Would you go to the inconvenience of relocating? Which may entail leaving (Leftist)family behind, and moving jobs etc.

(* post hash of your reply, and wait for greg to do the same, before posting your reply)

@greg0205
If you lived in a US red state, would you be willing to relocate to a blue state, who's laws/policies remained blue, permanently? So, iow, no crazy red laws based on religious beliefs about who you can and can't sleep with, or gun-nuts that need AR45's to go and buy bread at the local supermarket, or conspiracy nuts coming, worm-like, out of the woodwork. Let's say you also knew the next red potus would be another Trump, or worse.

Would you go to the inconvenience of relocating? Which may entail leaving (Rightwing)family behind, and moving jobs etc.

(* post hash of your reply, and wait for soldierman to do the same, before posting your reply)

Throw into the scenario that you could if you changed your mind at any time move to an explicitly purple state, where it was accepted that on average you agree to live 50% of your life under your own preferred policies, be they blue or red.

Would you relocate, knowing you would no longer need to flip every 4, or 8 years?

p.s. * To make it slightly more interesting, hash your reply and post your hashes(waiting for the other one to do the same), before posting the actual reply.

Here is a text hashing facility: http://www.hashemall.com/ (leave default algo as SHA 160bit (SHA1))
 

buka001

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Yet the transition process has started. If he wins in court, he doesn't concede. If he loses in court he concedes and the transition to handover has already begun.... what's so hard to understand my liberal friend??
He is keeping you and your mates hoping for a miracle, so he can grift some more money.

However in his selfish pursuit of enriching himself from the pockets of his cult, he is eroding the constitution and whipping up and fermenting the political divide, which may be the butterfly wing flap that leads to a Civil War in 4+ years.
 

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If he succeeds in stealing the election he's a successful dictator, if he fails he's an unsuccessful dictator. Either way....

So according to you the courts in America are not impartial? They are not to be trusted? They have been captured? They are not to be used for instance for determining if an election was rigged or not?
 

cerebus

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So according to you the courts in America are not impartial? They are not to be trusted? They have been captured? They are not to be used for instance for determining if an election was rigged or not?

No, the courts have been doing a pretty good job of using Trump's inept transparent efforts to steal the election as batting practice.
 

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LOL, Trumptards making fools of themselves as usual , just cant get over their impeached Orange Snollygoster Dicktator is getting the boot​

'the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?'






 

SoldierMan

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He is keeping you and your mates hoping for a miracle, so he can grift some more money.

However in his selfish pursuit of enriching himself from the pockets of his cult, he is eroding the constitution and whipping up and fermenting the political divide, which may be the butterfly wing flap that leads to a Civil War in 4+ years.

LOL I don't think he has any chance of winning in courts so that "miracle" I supposedly want, you are just talking complete nonsense as usual.

So going through the courts is eroding the constitution, wow that is a first. So should we do away with the courts then? I mean if all it takes is the word of someone like you and say Biden and co., why do we need the courts, right?

Yeah because the last 4 years of liberal/Democrat screeching and wailing that Trump and his supporters are demons and the devil in the flesh didn't fracture the USA at all :rolleyes: Look in the mirror, you liberals started the mud slinging and look where it got the US. Look in the mirror.
 

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No, the courts have been doing a pretty good job of using Trump's inept transparent efforts to steal the election as batting practice.

Yes, just as the courts usually do. But you contradict yourself. You can't have it both ways, either the courts are doing a good job either way, whether they give Trump the election or not. You only seem to think that the courts are good if the deny Trump the election. You remind me of the ANC and Malema, only when the court rules in their favour is the judgement accepted, otherwise, you know, dictator.
 

cerebus

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Yes, just as the courts usually do. But you contradict yourself. You can't have it both ways, either the courts are doing a good job either way, whether they give Trump the election or not. You only seem to think that the courts are good if the deny Trump the election. You remind me of the ANC and Malema, only when the court rules in their favour is the judgement accepted, otherwise, you know, dictator.
I don't know what you're talking about. The courts have been swatting away Trump's attempts to steal the election because his cases are groundless. The basic factor protecting the election is that the number of votes for Biden is so overwhelming that there's very little Trump can ultimately do. It hasn't stopped Trump from doing everything he possibly can to steal the election illegally. If the numbers had been closer, there's no doubt whatsoever that Republicans would have colluded with Trump to steal it and they would probably have been successful.
 

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Trump allies relentlessly lobbied election officials in a mad scramble to reverse the president’s loss​



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On Tuesday, The New York Times podcast “The Daily” looked at how President Donald Trump has — unsuccessfully — tried to use the machinery of state and local government around the country to dismantle

“His team filed a litany of court cases in battleground states. In some, such as Georgia and Michigan, the president and his allies took an even more bullish approach, attempting to use their influence to bear down on election officials, even at the lowest levels of state government,” said the report. “They have been relentless and tenacious in the efforts to transform the president’s fortunes. But the results have been immovable: Joe Biden is the president-elect.”

In one example, noted by the podcast, Trump and his allies leaned heavily on Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to throw out results. Raffensperger himself has pointed at Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) for allegedly, and possibly illegally, trying to get him to throw out mail-in ballots for entire counties. Asked whether Trump’s efforts were “inappropriate,” according to the podcast, Raffensperger said, “Yeah, I did, and that’s why I didn’t call him back.”

Ultimately, his efforts have largely hit a brick wall. Even after wining and dining Michigan lawmakers at the Trump Hotel in Washington, D.C., they were clear that they could not change the results, and ultimately a bipartisan group of state canvassers voted to certify the election there. “These boards do not, as a matter of course, decide whether to certify votes,” the podcast noted. “Their job is to be a rubber stamp.”
 

SoldierMan

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I've always been intrigued as to the dynamics of red & blue. So, just for a bit of fun(and if you can be bothered):

Here's a question for each of you:

@SoldierMan :
If you lived in a US blue state, would you be willing to relocate to a red state, who's laws/policies remained red, permanently? So, iow, no crazy blue laws like slicing body-parts off or men running around in drag, or 6-year-olds being taught they have a right to choose their gender or those laws tolerant of lazy, nit-infested students who are too cool for school and prefer to sit and smoke dope all day without their parents giving a damn. Let's say you also knew the next blue potus would be another Hilary Clinton, or worse.

Would you go to the inconvenience of relocating? Which may entail leaving (Leftist)family behind, and moving jobs etc.

(* post hash of your reply, and wait for greg to do the same, before posting your reply)

@greg0205
If you lived in a US red state, would you be willing to relocate to a blue state, who's laws/policies remained blue, permanently? So, iow, no crazy red laws based on religious beliefs about who you can and can't sleep with, or gun-nuts that need AR45's to go and buy bread at the local supermarket, or conspiracy nuts coming, worm-like, out of the woodwork. Let's say you also knew the next red potus would be another Trump, or worse.

Would you go to the inconvenience of relocating? Which may entail leaving (Rightwing)family behind, and moving jobs etc.

(* post hash of your reply, and wait for soldierman to do the same, before posting your reply)

Throw into the scenario that you could if you changed your mind at any time move to an explicitly purple state, where it was accepted that on average you agree to live 50% of your life under your own preferred policies, be they blue or red.

Would you relocate, knowing you would no longer need to flip every 4, or 8 years?

p.s. * To make it slightly more interesting, hash your reply and post your hashes(waiting for the other one to do the same), before posting the actual reply.

Here is a text hashing facility: http://www.hashemall.com/ (leave default algo as SHA 160bit (SHA1))

Dude, some of what you posted is a little confusing, especially that last part :)

But to try and answer your question, I don't think I would have an issue living in a blue state (well not too blue...) as long as the second amendment was upheld. Though if I had a choice I would pick a red over blue state. But then I think both the Rep and Dem parties are captured, it's just to what extent. RINOs are rife in the Rep party but have largely been silenced while Trump has been in office. Hope that answers your question.
 

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I don't know what you're talking about. The courts have been swatting away Trump's attempts to steal the election because his cases are groundless. The basic factor protecting the election is that the number of votes for Biden is so overwhelming that there's very little Trump can ultimately do. It hasn't stopped Trump from doing everything he possibly can to steal the election illegally. If the numbers had been closer, there's no doubt whatsoever that Republicans would have colluded with Trump to steal it and they would probably have been successful.

How would they have stolen it?
 

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The impeached Orange Snollygoster Dicktator​

MyBB Trumptards, do you believe that the 2020 election was rigged?​


Donald Trump vows he ‘will never concede’ in late night conspiracy-filled rant​



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Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential to President-elect Joe Biden, but is still refusing to concede.

White House aides reportedly convinced him to allow Biden to begin his transition by telling him he did not need to use the word “concede.”

But that word appeared to be on his mind late Monday night.

“What does GSA being allowed to preliminarily work with the Dems have to do with continuing to pursue our various cases on what will go down as the most corrupt election in American political history?” Trump asked while continuing to lie about the election being corrupt.

“We are moving full speed ahead. Will never concede to fake ballots & ‘Dominion,'” he continued, mentioning to false delusions.

 

cerebus

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How would they have stolen it?

By the same means they've been using to try to steal it now. Bombarding the courts with lawsuits, attempting to discard legitimate votes, claiming that there's vote fraud even if there's no evidence of it, intimidating electors. It's textbook stuff for wannabe dictators.


What Trump’s team is trying to do is derail the process at whatever points it can. For example, the Constitution stipulates that the electors be appointed “in such Manner as the [state] Legislature thereof may direct,” leading some to argue that state legislatures could decide to appoint slates of electors that aren’t reflective of the popular vote or in the event that the popular vote “failed,” in Foley’s wording. That’s where the Giuliani-Powell news conference comes in: If Michigan’s legislators decide that the claims made by Trump’s team give them enough cover to reject the popular vote results, they could decide to give the state’s electors to Trump.

A great deal of damage has already been done. Lawyers for the president of the United States throwing out sloppy, ridiculous and even unhinged rationales for interfering with the will of the voters in a half-dozen states is part of a dangerous ploy that has already cemented doubt about the outcome among Republicans. There’s no reason to think that every election moving forward won’t be similarly marred by attempts to overturn the popular will through some combination of legal chicanery, conspiracy-theory espousal and efforts to game the system.
Trump’s legal team likely thinks it’s being clever in its efforts to secure him a second term. Trump’s allies seem to think they’re mostly humoring him. But Trump’s own intent is clear: steal a victory at whatever cost to the country he leads. And just because the way he’s going about it is obvious and clumsy doesn’t mean it has no chance of success.
 
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