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InfrastructureBilPage2700
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You're talking to people who believe whatever fantasy they are told by the corrupt left and dishonest media. You're wasting your time trying to use facts and reason here. You assume they have some idea of what they are talking about, but they have simply been told what to believe. They assume you believe what you have been told by some "trusted source", because they couldn't imagine the possibility of someone having understanding and using reasoning to reach their own conclusion.
They have been conditioned to be climate alarmists by years of media narratives based on deceptive partisan studies and cherry picked data. Those who have an agenda have shown they will rewrite climate history if necessary to have the propaganda needed to push insane policies.
In reality, every single climate issue is both terribly misrepresented to the public, and the proposed solutions are usually worse than the current situation, for reasons that are less obvious and can therefore be ignored by advocates. To be fair, you can't expect the average person to actually research and understand the history of climate change and modern climate science, let alone production of technology, supply chains and related economics.
They are neither familiar with anything related to the topics, that they are feel compelled to advocate for, nor do they have any intention of ever learning and understanding anything related to them. Especially since that would risk acknowledging facts which may conflict with their ideology. Being told that they will be doing good by supporting these things is enough.
It doesn't matter if the outcome will be substantially worse by every possible metric, as long as you never think about whether you will be doing good, and not just feeling good about what you are doing.
Money is a huge factor, but it's far from the only one that is preventing their socialist clean green utopia. Anyone who understands the materials and manufacturing processes involved in the technology they want to use to "save the world", knows that every plan they propose is an insane fantasy with no basis in reality. It's obvious that the activists who put together these plans have absolutely no idea how anything is made in the real world.
I wouldn't even know where to start with explaining how many different huge problems there are, at all stages of production, in order to be just able to generate clean electricity. The green house gasses produced by all stages of manufacturing the parts needed for so called "clean generation" like solar and wind turbines, can end up causing more pollution than if you just generated the power with the latest generation of clean coal power plants. Those parts also need to be replaced more frequently than you realize, and the waste produced by them cannot be recycled, which is a whole separate environmental issue.
Everything in the real world is a million times more complicated, but that won't stop activists and advocates from oversimplifying things to suit their agenda.
Do you have any sources or research to backup your speculations or do you consider such things to "trusted sources" which we shouldn't trust or believe? Do you consider yourself an expert in all things that you don't need to look to scientific authority for assistance in understanding the issues and reaching conclusions? The science behind climate change seems pretty comprehensive and don't see any solutions being offered by critics such as yourself. It's easy to criticise but pretending there is nothing to worry, that it's all just alarmist fantasy seems pretty shortsighted to me, akin to burying your head in the sand. But hey, what do I know, you clearly hold people like me in contempt and consider yourself a far more intelligent and rational person. And the band played on...