US Election 2020 - The Result

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Don't expect much news in the immediate future: https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/
Nathaniel Rakich
Nov. 6, 2:16 pm

What’s Left To Count

Since it looks like no projection is imminent in the presidential race, we’re going to take another quick break. To tide you over, here’s where things stand in the five crucial states we’re still watching:

Where we’re expecting more data tonight:

Pennsylvania: Biden has overtaken Trump in the state and now leads by 13,371 votes — and most of the remaining 100,000+ ballots should be very good for Democrats, given that they are either mail-in or provisional votes. Of particular note, a cache of about 29,000 mail-in ballots in Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) that a court had ordered to be segregated and double-checked will be counted starting at 5 p.m. Eastern.

Nevada: After some updates this morning, Biden expanded his lead here to 20,137 votes. Although about 150,000 late-arriving mail ballots or provisional ballots have yet to be counted, these ballots are expected to lean Democratic. Clark County (home of Las Vegas), where most percent of the outstanding ballots are, will release its next update at 7 p.m. Eastern and should have the bulk of the counting done this weekend.

Arizona: Biden currently leads here by 43,779 votes, but there are somewhere around 220,000 left to count. Trump needs to win about 60 percent of those (or more) to pull into the lead, but he’s been falling short of that so far. We expect to get more results from Maricopa County (where most of the outstanding ballots are) at 9 p.m. Eastern. It’s unclear whether that will be enough to cause the networks to project the state. (Some outlets, such as Fox News, have already projected Arizona for Biden, but most media outlets have not, including our colleagues at ABC News.)

Heading to a recount:

Georgia: Biden currently leads here by a razor-thin margin (1,561 votes) with about 8,200 regular absentee ballots, up to 8,900 overseas ballots and at least 5,500 provisional ballots left to count (plus 2,000 rejected absentee ballots that could be “cured” by their voters). The secretary of state has already said that the race will go to a recount.

No updates until next week:

North Carolina: North Carolina has counted every ballot it had in its possession as of Tuesday, and Trump leads by 76,737 votes among them. However, the state has announced that about 117,000 mail-in ballots and 40,766 provisional ballots are potentially outstanding, although not all of them will count. Mail-in ballots have until Nov. 12 to arrive, and only at that point will more results be released.
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copacetic said:
But how?
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Recounts and courts proceedings as there are many alleged cases of fraud. It can drag on past the due date and then the Senate votes? And Hillary forgot to stuff the ballot boxes for senators or the supreme court?
 
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Recounts and courts proceedings as there are many alleged cases of fraud. It can drag on past the due date and then the Senate votes? And Hillary forgot to stuff the ballot boxes for senators or the supreme court?
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Is this Hunter Biden laptop style fraud, or fraud fraud?

I kid (sort of), but as far as I can see there has been very little (if any moreso than usual) impropriety, and from a bit of reading it looks EXTREMELY unlikely that there are any reasonable legal avenues to go down here.

Time will tell, and for the record, I am of course fully in support of any actual fraud being dealt with appropriately, it is just that, as of now, seems like not much more than sour grapes.
 
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Chris_the_Brit said:
It's an article behind a paywall - I think you might be able to see it if you use incognito mode on Google Chrome and clear any FT cookies: https://www.ft.com/content/d73b9541-f91c-4423-9353-1f6606f31ee7. Or put the article title into google and click on that link.
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Very useful:

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Bypass Paywalls web browser extension for Chrome and Firefox. - bypass-paywalls-chrome/README.md at master · iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
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rietrot said:
Recounts and courts proceedings as there are many alleged cases of fraud. It can drag on past the due date and then the Senate votes?
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You might want to look up the procedure, the Senate doesn't vote for the new president in a contingent election.
 
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copacetic said:
Is this Hunter Biden laptop style fraud, or fraud fraud?

I kid (sort of), but as far as I can see there has been very little (if any moreso than usual) impropriety, and from a bit of reading it looks EXTREMELY unlikely that there are any reasonable legal avenues to go down here.

Time will tell, and for the record, I am of course fully in support of any actual fraud being dealt with appropriately, it is just that, as of now, seems like not much more than sour grapes.
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Philadelphia mayor says 'the people have spoken'

Here's more from the Democratic mayor of Philadelphia, Jim Kenney. All eyes are on Pennsylvania, where the final tally could decide the 2020 race.

In his speech, he urged everyone to "stay calm and stay above the fray", and praised residents for staying peaceful.

"The votes will continue to be counted until every ballot" is account for, he said, adding that "some, including the president", had made "baseless claims of fraud" without "one iota of evidence".

"What we have seen here in Philadelphia is democracy, pure and simple. The system works, the people have spoken," he said.
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'Trump needs to put his big boy pants on and concede'

He started by praising the protesters outside the city's counting location for staying peaceful, and charged that Trump must concede the race given that he is trailing in Pennsylvania and other swing states.

"What the president needs to do is, frankly, put his big boy pants on and acknowledge that he lost," Kenney said.
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