US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

Will Trump be impeached?

  • Hell yeah he's guilty as a mofo

    Votes: 40 21.1%
  • He's gonna keep triggering leftards until 2024

    Votes: 112 58.9%
  • Whoever made this poll clearly has no idea how impeachment works

    Votes: 38 20.0%

  • Total voters
    190
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Emjay

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There is, however, that other problem of Hunter Biden landing a windfall contract with one of Ukraine’s most corrupt figures after his father took charge of potentially billions in U.S. loans and aid for Ukraine. That is what no one seems to want to discuss.

Thus, the campaign wrote to various networks, demanding that they stop airing interviews on the scandal with figures such as Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani. Kate Bedingfield, deputy manager of the Biden campaign, also denounced The New York Times for publishing an op-ed by author Peter Schweizer on the controversy. The campaign apparently expected the Times and the networks to fall in line and bar others from even expressing a view.

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Kent told lawmakers on Tuesday that the Obama administration spearheaded the efforts to have Shokin removed from his position as the top federal prosecutor in Ukraine. Kent said the international community — namely the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and Western nations within the European Union — were deferential to U.S. directives on the matter. At a 2018 event organized by the Council on Foreign Relations, Joe Biden — who was tasked by then-President Barack Obama to lead the U.S. government’s efforts in Ukraine — bragged about threatening to withhold a billion-dollar loan guarantee if the Ukrainian government refused to fire Shokin.

“I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars,” Biden said. “I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours.”

“I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours,’” Biden recalled. “If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

After Shokin was fired, he was replaced by Yuri Lutsenko, who also has been dogged by allegations of corruption. The Obama administration never demanded Lutsenko’s ouster, despite worries that Lutsenko was similarly corrupt and untrustworthy.
 

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Indeed. We saw that with our own elections with the democratic alliance offering little but badmouthing the opposition
Yes lol, just like that Purple Cow party, where the leader bad mouthed every one, even the BLF, which they lost too, by trying to imitate Trump and the way Trump bad mouths every one at every opportunity that his tiny hands are given access to his twitter account.
 

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Yes lol, just like that Purple Cow party, where the leader bad mouthed every one, even the BLF, which they lost too, by trying to imitate Trump and the way Trump bad mouths every one at every opportunity that his tiny hands are given access to his twitter account.
Whataboutism
 

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Whataboutism : 10/10

Trump worshippers claim that the prosecutor was fired to protect Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden only joined the company some time after the prosecutor had been fired. So your comment makes no sense.
 

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Whataboutism : 10/10

Also, as far as whataboutism is concerned, I should point out that the only reason why Hunter Biden is in the news is because Trump and his worshippers need to deflect from Trump and his inner circle's own corruption.
 

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Also, as far as whataboutism is concerned, I should point out that the only reason why Hunter Biden is in the news is because Trump and his worshippers need to deflect from Trump and his inner circle's own corruption.

That's not true, he's in the news because he's the reason Trump is being impeached
 

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Whataboutism
LOL

This whole Ukraine/Biden story is a whataboutism.

Whistleblower - Trump suggested a quid pro quo for help from Ukraine to damage Biden.
Trump fans - What about Hunter Biden?
Non-Trump fans - What about Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr

back and forward.
 

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Also, as far as whataboutism is concerned, I should point out that the only reason why Hunter Biden is in the news is because Trump and his worshippers need to deflect from Trump and his inner circle's own corruption.

Citation needed.....again .
 

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LOL

This whole Ukraine/Biden story is a whataboutism.

Whistleblower - Trump suggested a quid pro quo for help from Ukraine to damage Biden.
Trump fans - What about Hunter Biden?
Non-Trump fans - What about Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr

back and forward.


Cerebres already cleared hunter because some leftist journalists investigated him.

I reckon we need some fisa warrants and a special prosecutor just to be sure.
 

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LOL

This whole Ukraine/Biden story is a whataboutism.

Whistleblower - Trump suggested a quid pro quo for help from Ukraine to damage Biden.
Trump fans - What about Hunter Biden?
Trump is obligated by treaty to bring up such questions with the leader of Ukraine, who has said that nothing untoward happened during the conversation. This is a nothing burger.

But yes, what about Hunter Biden, we actually want to know. Do the investigation, bring back the results, that's the kind of transparency Trump has been subjected to, so sic special councils on the whole fscking lot of them as far as I'm concerned.

Non-Trump fans - What about Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr

back and forward.
~24 hours to go, then the narrative shifts... ;)
 

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Trump is obligated by treaty to bring up such questions with the leader of Ukraine, who has said that nothing untoward happened during the conversation. This is a nothing burger.

But yes, what about Hunter Biden, we actually want to know. Do the investigation, bring back the results, that's the kind of transparency Trump has been subjected to, so sic special councils on the whole fscking lot of them as far as I'm concerned.


~24 hours to go, then the narrative shifts... ;)

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And Hunter Biden joined the company only some time after the prosecutor had been fired, a detail that seems to matter not to Trump supporters.

Shokin was appointed in 2015 iirc. Hunter Biden joined the Burisma board in 2014. Sources are generally a good idea.

~24 hours to go, then the narrative shifts... ;)

Isn't it next week Friday?

And, do you REALLY believe that? MSM drives the narrative, and the narrative now is impeachment at all costs.
 
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