US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

[Gingerbeardman]

Note how it's all just empty whining and not a single refutation of anything I posted?

There's no point in refuting any of the swill you spread around, unless it happens to be convenient to do so for entertainment purposes. Expecting to be treated like an honest debater when you constantly engage in bad faith is a bit much, don't you think?

I was referring to Matt Gaetz and his merry band of thugs who see it fit to storm classified hearings to intimidate witnesses and obstruct legitimate congressional inquiry. Something even more absurd given how more than 45 Republicans already have access to the depositions and can ask any questions they want, because they're part of the Committees conducting the hearings.

I tell you what, I'll back the notion of those 45 Republicans facing criminal charges for violating SCIF protocols if you agree that the same standard should be applied across the board. We gotta deal, or nah cuz you're a hypocrite?

It's actually even worse than that. His lawyers are actually arguing that because Trump and his businesses are inseparable (in his mind), a flagrant broken campaign promise btw, his immunity extends to his businesses, too. They're actually arguing that that no law enforcement can investigate anything to do with him or his businesses while he's president.

Oh noes, how dare Trump engage lawfare with more lawfare!

Another instance to add to the obstruction of congress article of impeachment.

Don't forget the choice to host the G7 meeting at a Trump hotel...

 

[Gingerbeardman]

I'm old enough to remember when Devin Nunes had Shiff's job, and basically broke the House Intelligence Committee by sneaking into the WH to take briefings and share congressional info with staff there, all to release a partisan fiction, full of cherry picked snippets, that came to be known as the Nunes Memo... Oh, and also that other time 41 of his congressional pals stormed a SCIF and breached national security, breaking the law... But, you know, arrest Adam Shiff or whatever.

I'm old enough to remember when Paul Ryan had ethics investigations slapped on Nunes for his behaviour...

 

[Temujin]

America's Air Quality Worsens, Ending Years of Gains

Found this interesting, shows not just US, but world(well, not everywhere, but a fair chunk)

Air Pollution in United States: Real-time Air Quality Index Visual Map

How polluted is the air today? Check out the real-time air pollution map, for more than 100 countries.

aqicn.org

 

[Gingerbeardman]

I'm not comparing Mr Trump to Joseph Stalin, but what's currently happening - him calling for Schiff to be tried for treason, calling Republican dissenters human scum, allegations of a "deep state" conspiring against him, etc., reminds me of the Great Purge under Stalin, when he went after his political opponents, including within his own party, with fabricated and trumped-up allegations of plotting against the government, in order to have them imprisoned and executed.

And what if the allegations aren't trumped up? Did you ever stop to think that the previous administration did break the law in their attempt to stop Trump from ascending to the presidency?

 

[lumeer]

So if Trump supporters are deplorables, and Never Trumpers are scum, what does that make Lindsey Graham, a once Never Trumper who became Trump's staunchest ally?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

So if Trump supporters are deplorables, and Never Trumpers are scum, what does that make Lindsey Graham, a once Never Trumper who became Trump's staunchest ally?

Lindsey Graham is all talk and no action. I say odds are 50/50 that he's just talking nice about Trump in public while using his position to stonewall any investigation into the Russiagate saga because he knows it will implicate his recently departed never-Trumper buddy John McCain.

 

[lumeer]

The Rasmussen poll, which for a long time had Trump at 49 - 50% approval, now has him at 43%.

 

[scudsucker]

...you constantly engage in bad faith

Xarog, who ran away because the truth about the lies he was spreading became inconvenient, but immediately returned as GBM to spread the same lies... is accusing other people of engaging in bad faith?

The lack of self awareness is Trumpian.

 

[buka001]

Why is Sen. Graham and the other Republicans so opposed to the closed door process? It was done for Clinton and Sen. Graham was part of this process and sat inside these closed door hearings.

Are they worried about the outcome?

 

[lumeer]

Why is Sen. Graham and the other Republicans so opposed to the closed door process? It was done for Clinton and Sen. Graham was part of this process and sat inside these closed door hearings.

Are they worried about the outcome?

They can't defend Trump on the facts so they're clutching at straws trying to argue procedure.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Why is Sen. Graham and the other Republicans so opposed to the closed door process? It was done for Clinton and Sen. Graham was part of this process and sat inside these closed door hearings.

Are they worried about the outcome?

It's not the closed door proceedings, it's the closed door proceedings where the people who presumably have to vote on the impeachment never get to actually be part of the closed door proceedings. You're not intimating that the Dems were excluded from the closed door proceedings back when Clinton was being impeached, are you?

Anyway, the only reason you need to go to such extreme lengths to keep the facts of the matter hidden is when sunshine would evaporate your narrative like mist.

Bring on the farce, I say.

 

[cerebus]

It's not the closed door proceedings, it's the closed door proceedings where the people who presumably have to vote on the impeachment never get to actually be part of the closed door proceedings. You're not intimating that the Dems were excluded from the closed door proceedings back when Clinton was being impeached, are you?

Anyway, the only reason you need to go to such extreme lengths to keep the facts of the matter hidden is when sunshine would evaporate your narrative like mist.

Bring on the farce, I say.

Congressional republicans were definitely not excluded from the hearings. They were bipartisan. 13 of the GOP members who staged that protest had the right to enter the proceedings without resorting to any theatrics

 

[greg0205]

Congressional republicans were definitely not excluded from the hearings. They were bipartisan.

There were Republicans *in* the hearing when DUI Gaetz and his gang that couldn't shoot straight interrupted.

13 of the 41 light-in-the-head cavalry charging the Democrat guns were entitled to be in the hearing.

49 of the 197 congressional Republicans are entitled to be in the hearings.

...The whole thing was an effort to stroke Fox' biggest fan's fragile ego.

 

[Emjay]

DOJ Administrative Review Into Russia Probe Takes Serious Turn | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Now they are just teasing.

 

[cerebus]

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.

www.nbcnews.com

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.


That the administrative review into the origins of the Mueller probe has turned into a criminal investigation could raise alarms that President Donald Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies, the Times reported.


Democratic Reps. Adam Schiff, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Jerrold Nadler, who heads the House Judiciary Committee, called the reports of a criminal investigation troubling.

"These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump's political revenge," the lawmakers said in a statement.

 

[AlmightyBender]

It's not the closed door proceedings, it's the closed door proceedings where the people who presumably have to vote on the impeachment never get to actually be part of the closed door proceedings. You're not intimating that the Dems were excluded from the closed door proceedings back when Clinton was being impeached, are you?

Anyway, the only reason you need to go to such extreme lengths to keep the facts of the matter hidden is when sunshine would evaporate your narrative like mist.

Bring on the farce, I say.

What a load of horse shyte for the reasons already stated. Are you trying to say that all Dems in Congress are allowed into those hearings? They are not. They face the same access restrictions as the republicans. Would the Dems also be justified in storming the proceedings?

 

[Emjay]

Adam Schiff Witness Cancels Speaking Gig to Burisma-Funded Think Tank

Ambassador Philip Reeker, set to testify to the secretive impeachment inquiry run by Adam Schiff this weekend, cancelled a speaking gig earlier this week at the Atlantic Council think tank.

www.breitbart.com

Something reeks here.

Ambassador Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of State for European and Eurasian affairs who is set to testify to the Democrats secretive impeachment inquiry this weekend, cancelled a speaking gig earlier this week at the Atlantic Council think tank.

The Atlantic Council is funded by and works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

What a load of horse shyte for the reasons already stated. Are you trying to say that all Dems in Congress are allowed into those hearings? They are not. They face the same access restrictions as the republicans. Would the Dems also be justified in storming the proceedings?

Lol. Are you forgetting that the Reps can't cross examine witnesses or subpoena witnesses of their own?

 

[Gnarls]

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.

www.nbcnews.com

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.


That the administrative review into the origins of the Mueller probe has turned into a criminal investigation could raise alarms that President Donald Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies, the Times reported.


Democratic Reps. Adam Schiff, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Jerrold Nadler, who heads the House Judiciary Committee, called the reports of a criminal investigation troubling.

"These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump's political revenge," the lawmakers said in a statement.

Yeah, pencil neck would bleat that!

 

[Pitbull]

Trump been impeached yet?