US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

[Unhappy438]

They can't defend Trump on the facts so they're clutching at straws trying to argue procedure.

Yeah its hilarious and what makes it even funnier is its a procedure they voted for just a few years ago.

 

[Emjay]

Lol. Are you forgetting that the Reps can't cross examine witnesses or subpoena witnesses of their own?

That's irrelevant GBM. They are only there to gather evidence. And then leak it to the media.

And any cross examinations of witnesses will be "talking points".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187200771718299649

But strategic leaks to the media seem to be fine.

 

[Gnarls]

That's irrelevant GBM. They are only there to gather evidence. And then leak it to the media.

And any cross examinations of witnesses will be "talking points".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187200771718299649

But strategic leaks to the media seem to be fine.

The very definition of bad faith debating. But according to the geniuses here, they're clutching at straws.

 

[rietrot]

Trump been impeached yet?

They're still holding secret meetings to try and get their story straight, manufacture some quid pro quo and decide who is going to pose as the whistle blower

 

[Temujin]

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.

www.nbcnews.com

Justice Department review of Russia probe turns into criminal investigation

Attorney General William Barr's administrative review of what would become the Mueller investigation is now a criminal probe.


That the administrative review into the origins of the Mueller probe has turned into a criminal investigation could raise alarms that President Donald Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies, the Times reported.


Democratic Reps. Adam Schiff, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Jerrold Nadler, who heads the House Judiciary Committee, called the reports of a criminal investigation troubling.

"These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump's political revenge," the lawmakers said in a statement.

Criminal dems getting caught being criminals and selling out the US is trump fault too

 

[rietrot]

But strategic leaks to the media seem to be fine.

Only one side seems to care about the rules. The other will use the rules if they can get a political advantage out of it. This isn't going to end well if polarisation continue.

 

[greg0205]

Only one side seems to care about the rules. The other will use the rules if they can get a political advantage out of it. This isn't going to end well if polarisation continue.

Rules? Like, say, no electronic devices in a SCIF rules? Those kinda rules?

 

[Gnarls]

Kimberley Strassel: How Trump-haters are breaking America

The problem is instead Democrats who are turning the awesome powers of the House into partisan political weapons. The impeachment power is large and serious. Yet these days, Democrats toss the word around with as much regularity as they do the word “hearing,” or “motion” or “bill.” Holding an executive cabinet member in contempt of Congress is a serious move, yet Democrats slapped Barr with contempt in record time and for no reason other than to score political points. House Democrats have cast aside the usual rules on oversight — ignoring the traditional need to show true “legislative purpose” and instead demanding documents from Trump from before he was even in office. And current Democratic presidential candidates are promising to abolish the Electoral College, pack the Supreme Court, give sixteen-year-olds the vote, and confiscate existing firearms. constitutional norms, anyone?

The thoughtless use of these powers has watered down their meaning, with alarming future consequences. Impeachment remains one of the only ways to remove a truly corrupt president. The more Democrats politicize it, the more wary future Congresses will be to embrace it when it is truly necessary. And Democrats’ wanton threat of subpoenas and contempt citations has already made the Trump White House wary of complying with congressional demands. This destroys what in the past had been a tense but somewhat workable compromise — in which a Congress managed to see documents it truly needed for oversight, and a White House was able to protect those that went to the core of executive deliberation.

House Democrats have yet to vote for a formal impeachment inquiry into Trump. Should they unilaterally do so, half the country will see it as proof that the party is determined to reverse via brute force the results of the 2016 election. Again, nothing Trump has done compares.

 

[rietrot]

Rules? Like, say, no electronic devices in a SCIF rules? Those kinda rules?

Yes exactly. It matters now because some Republicans had a phone in their pocket. Boohoo.

 

[greg0205]

Yes exactly. It matters now because some Republicans had a phone in their pocket. Boohoo.

I thought it mattered because John Boehner and his Republican congressional majority *made* the rules in 2015, but whatever...

 

[rietrot]

I thought it mattered because John Boehner and his Republican congressional majority *made* the rules in 2015, but whatever...

It matters now because it gives you a talking point and something to moan about. It is sad and desperate.

 

[cerebus]

They are only there to gather evidence.

At least that much is true.

 

[buka001]

Yeah its hilarious and what makes it even funnier is its a procedure they voted for just a few years ago.

Yip, Trey Gowdy waves hello.

 

[buka001]

Only one side seems to care about the rules. The other will use the rules if they can get a political advantage out of it. This isn't going to end well if polarisation continue.

Rules? Like the rules of this proceeding that were set up and voted in by Republicans?

 

[rietrot]

Rules? Like the rules of this proceeding that were set up and voted in by Republicans?

Yes, that is what I said. Do you have a point to make?

 

[buka001]

It matters now because it gives you a talking point and something to moan about. It is sad and desperate.

It is flagrant hypocrisy and your partisan flavoured view of it, fuels the very divisiveness you appear to be against.

 

[rietrot]

It is flagrant hypocrisy and your partisan flavoured view of it, fuels the very divisiveness you appear to be against.

O you don't like it when I play by the same rules as you do?

 

[greg0205]

It is flagrant hypocrisy and your partisan flavoured view of it, fuels the very divisiveness you appear to be against.

Democrats are the devil! They're playing by the rules WE made and it's NOT FAIR! 2nd Amendment! Civil war!

 

[Unhappy438]

It matters now because it gives you a talking point and something to moan about. It is sad and desperate.

Said the guy who was moaning just a few posts ago. Sad and desperate indeed.

 

[Emjay]

Democrats are the devil! They're playing by the rules WE made and it's NOT FAIR! 2nd Amendment! Civil war!

Trump is a Russian asset!!!!!!