US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

Will Trump be impeached?

  • Hell yeah he's guilty as a mofo

    Votes: 25 21.4%
  • He's gonna keep triggering leftards until 2024

    Votes: 73 62.4%
  • Whoever made this poll clearly has no idea how impeachment works

    Votes: 19 16.2%

  • Total voters
    117

cerebus

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Aides were arguing in favor of “bowing to what was demanded,” said Petro Burkovskiy, a senior fellow at the Democratic Initiatives Foundation who has close ties to the Ukrainian government. They were willing to do so, he said, despite the risk of losing bipartisan support in the United States by appearing to assist Mr. Trump’s re-election bid. “The cost was high.”

That stance has crumbled as a succession of United States diplomats, capped by Mr. Sondland on Tuesday, have testified in the impeachment inquiry that the freeze on aid was part of a quid pro quo designed to coerce Mr. Zelensky into making the public statement.

In Kiev, there is still a debate about whether Mr. Zelensky caved or held out. “The Zelensky team was ready to make this quid quo pro,” said Mr. Burkovskiy, the analyst. “They were ready to do this.”
 

lumeer

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How on earth do you reconcile your support for Sanders and Bloomberg?
Neither is a career politician, and both have a sincere intention to serve their country and help make it a better place. Both speak a great deal of sense. People who dismiss Sanders as nothing but a socialist, have not followed his arguments. He wants basic human rights and universal healthcare much like they have in progressive European countries, that's all. My only concern with Sanders is his health. Bloomberg, by the way, is pro-immigration: send us your best, he says. The USA needs top skills from the rest of the world to retain its technological advantage, he says, and if it were up to him, he'd staple a US green card to any PhD certificate in a STEM field at every university in the world.
 

TysonRoux

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"It's like showing up at the nursing home at daybreak to find your elderly uncle running pantsless across the courtyard and cursing loudly about the cafeteria food, as worried attendants tried to catch him," the person writes. "You're stunned, amused, and embarrassed all at the same time. Only your uncle probably wouldn't do it every single day, his words aren't broadcast to the public, and he doesn't have to lead the U.S. government once he puts his pants on."


 
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rietrot

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You should love Soros, everyone on the right loves billionaires /s
I don't have a problem with him or his billions or how he made it.

I disagree with most of his charitable work.
And at this stage I'm happy that it is in the open and no longer just a conspiracy. People can do with that what they please.
 

Hamish McPanji

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I don't have a problem with him or his billions or how he made it.

I disagree with most of his charitable work.
And at this stage I'm happy that it is in the open and no longer just a conspiracy. People can do with that what they please.
What is out in the open? And what's the conspiracy?

Every man and his dog has blamed Soros for something. Are you saying it's all true? He's the Baba Yaga that everyone uses when they are trying to justify or excuse themselves
 

cerebus

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Giuliani Associates Urged Ukraine’s Prior President to Open Biden, Election Probes


Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman pushed then-president Poroshenko to announce probes in return for U.S. state visit


Months before President Trump pressed Ukraine’s newly installed leader to investigate Joe Biden’s son and allegations of interference in the 2016 U.S. election, two associates of Rudy Giuliani urged the prior Ukrainian president to announce similar probes in exchange for a state visit to Washington, according to people familiar with the matter.

A late February meeting in Kyiv between Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman and then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko took place at the offices of Ukrainian general prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko, the people said. It came soon after Messrs. Parnas and Fruman met with Mr. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, and Mr. Lutsenko in New York in late January and again in Warsaw in mid-February, Mr. Giuliani has said.
 

greg0205

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Just In: Republican impeachment witness requests


Devon Archer
Hunter Biden
Alexandra Chalupa
David Hale
Tim Morrison
Nellie Ohr
Kurt Volker
The whistleblower
All individuals relied upon by the anonymous whistleblower in drafting his or her secondhand complaint


First, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

*sigh*

Second, I assume this is a first draft because there is no mention of Hillary Clinton, the DNC server, Obama's long-form birth certificate, George Soros, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, everyone who worked at Uranium One, ever, and @DevinCow
 

Temujin

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Just In: Republican impeachment witness requests


Devon Archer
Hunter Biden
Alexandra Chalupa
David Hale
Tim Morrison
Nellie Ohr
Kurt Volker
The whistleblower
All individuals relied upon by the anonymous whistleblower in drafting his or her secondhand complaint


First, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

*sigh*


Second, I assume this is a first draft because there is no mention of Hillary Clinton, the DNC server, Obama's long-form birth certificate, George Soros, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, everyone who worked at Uranium One, ever, and @DevinCow
No doubt thats verbatim schiff
...and has just started printing his 'denied' letter template hes been waiting to use
:giggle:
 

BBSA

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:giggle: :laugh::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

One of his best, even the trump haters here will enjoy it.
 

Unhappy438

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I don't have a problem with him or his billions or how he made it.

I disagree with most of his charitable work.
And at this stage I'm happy that it is in the open and no longer just a conspiracy. People can do with that what they please.
Yeah but you dont love him, you're just throwing your values out the window.
 
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