US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

[greg0205]

Stop deflecting and answer the question.

Compared to his initial opponent who was apparently a saint, what made him the worse pick?

Alternatively when it comes to things he CURRENTLY actually DOES not says.... what makes him morally objectionable?

You went back into the past as a deflection and then have the gall to demand I don't?

In the last seven days he pardoned three war criminals. How's that for current?

 

[rambo919]

You are arguing points nobody is making, i too remember the times of BUT MUH MITT ROMNEY was a defense of Obama 3 years after the election.

Nonsense, I listed her main faults (i.e. the reasons many people voted for trump in the first place) and you accused me of derangement syndrome, that's not arguing points nobody is making.

 

[rambo919]

In the last seven days he pardoned three war criminals. How's that for current?

I have not actually followed that so can't comment other than to wonder if they are really war criminals or if they were merely branded as such.

If they were wrongly pardoned he deserves prosecution, if they were not he deserves praise. TDS being in full effect I automatically doubt anything the MSM says about him until someone sane corroborates it..

 

[cerebus]

Stop deflecting and answer the question.

I mean... he just gave you about 20 reasons from both Donnie's past and from his current track record as president. But ok here's some more from before he became President that all should have been disqualifying:

- Calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five and refusing to apologize even after they were fully exonerated
- Being successfully sued for discriminating against black renters in his slums
- Being an unsuccessful businessman with a string of bankruptcies
- Bragging on tape about sexual assault
- Being accused by around 25 women of sexual harassment
- Bragging on tape about entering the locker rooms of Miss Universe contestants without their permission
- Birtherism
- Bone spurs

Etc

 

[cerebus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197345849258455042

Such a victory for schiff

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197184957057306624

 

[rambo919]

I mean... he just gave you about 20 reasons from both Donnie's past and from his current track record as president. snip

I asked for current reasons he went into the past, I went along he demanded I focus on the future.

He also included things that was said which is immaterial since trump always says dumb stuff just to rile people up, probably does not actually even mean half of it.

Yes Trump is a terrible person, the alternatives though are no better.

 

[greg0205]

I have not actually followed that so can't comment other than to wonder if they are really war criminals or if they were merely branded as such.

If they were wrongly pardoned he deserves prosecution, if they were not he deserves praise. TDS being in full effect I automatically doubt anything the MSM says about him until someone sane corroborates it..

Trump Issued Pardons in Soldiers' War Crimes Cases. What Now?

The attorneys' concerns are tied less to the specifics of the cases and more to the broad implications of Trump's actions.

www.military.com

How the long-term effect of Trump’s recent war crimes actions could play out

The move could undermine military justice or set it straight.

www.militarytimes.com

Trump Grants Pardons to 2 U.S. Soldiers Accused of War Crimes

'Sometimes they get really treated very unfairly,' Trump said previously of the soldiers

time.com

Trump Pardoned Military Officers Accused of Committing War Crimes

He's likely the first president in recent history to pardon service members accused of violent crimes.

www.esquire.com

War Crimes Are Not Difficult to Discern

The president’s latest pardons reveal that he wants his fighters unconstrained by modern laws of armed conflict.

www.theatlantic.com

Trump just overruled his top military officials in controversial war crimes pardons

President Donald Trump on Friday evening absolved three US service members who were either convicted or were still facing trial of war crimes.

www.businessinsider.com

Trump just issued multiple war crime pardons. Experts think it’s a bad idea.

Trump loves the military. But he doesn’t seem to respect its justice system.

www.vox.com

You want more?

 

[cerebus]

I asked for current reasons he went into the past, I went along he demanded I focus on the future.

You're just shifting goalposts randomly but it doesn't matter. Every slice of that Trump pie tastes like ratshit

 

[buka001]

I have not actually followed that so can't comment other than to wonder if they are really war criminals or if they were merely branded as such.

If they were wrongly pardoned he deserves prosecution, if they were not he deserves praise. TDS being in full effect I automatically doubt anything the MSM says about him until someone sane corroborates it..

They were reported by their own platoon to their generals and convicted in court as war criminals.

 

[rambo919]

You want more?

I said the MSM is biased against him.... you respond by throwing MSM links at me.....

It's too soon to actually make up my mind on this, after a while the truth will probably be clear enough amoungst the filth.

 

[greg0205]

I asked for current reasons he went into the past, I went along he demanded I focus on the future.

He also included things that was said which is immaterial since trump always says dumb stuff just to rile people up, probably does not actually even mean half of it.

Yes Trump is a terrible person, the alternatives though are no better.

Folk who say, "Donnie tells it like it as" are always telling the rest of us he actually doesn't even mean half of what he says... Why is that?

 

[rambo919]

You're just shifting goalposts randomly but it doesn't matter. Every slice of that Trump pie tastes like ratshit

I'm not the one that shifted the goalposts though....

 

[Unhappy438]

Nonsense, I listed her main faults (i.e. the reasons many people voted for trump in the first place) and you accused me of derangement syndrome, that's not arguing points nobody is making.

No someone criticised Trump and you whatabouted to the irrelevant Hillary.

 

[rambo919]

Folk who say, "Donnie tells it like it as" are always telling the rest of us he actually doesn't even mean half of what he says... Why is that?

I dunno, ask them not me.

 

[cerebus]

I'm not the one that shifted the goalposts though....

Fine, pick a time period and let's see how many disqualifying things we can find about Trump

 

[rambo919]

No someone criticised Trump and you whatabouted to the irrelevant Hillary.

Whataboutism is deflection, I did not deflect. She is not irrelevant since she was the main alternative to him.

 

[buka001]

I said the MSM is biased against him.... you respond by throwing MSM links at me.....

It's too soon to actually make up my mind on this, after a while the truth will probably be clear enough amoungst the filth.

The soldiers in their own platoon reported these guys. They were convicted for their crimes.

 

[greg0205]

I said the MSM is biased against him.... you respond by throwing MSM links at me.....

It's too soon to actually make up my mind on this, after a while the truth will probably be clear enough amoungst the filth.

Why are you even here then? Surely your bubble is more comfortable, and you won't have to deal with "libruls" like me.

No. It's not too soon. They were accused by fellow soldiers who were there and witnessed *everything* they did... they were courtmartialed and found guilty... they're war criminals.

This is not hard.

 

[rambo919]

Fine, pick a time period and let's see how many disqualifying things we can find about Trump

Given how slippery your responses usually are you will have to excuse me from playing this game. You have already falsely accused me of being the one to shift the goalposts.

 

[rambo919]

Why are you even here then? Surely your bubble is more comfortable, and you won't have to deal with "libruls" like me.

No. It's not too soon. They were accused by fellow soldiers who were there and witnessed *everything* they did... they were courtmartialed and found guilty... they're war criminals.

This is not hard.

Politics and witnesses are easy things to twist. Especially when people believe what they see on surface level.