US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

[Gingerbeardman]

You know that totally isn’t true. I’ve had a LOT of criticisms about Biden and I still do. I just don’t think there’s anything to this Burisma story, based on what we know. And I’m dubious that he should be responsible for his son’s indiscretions.

Joe Biden is responsible for getting the prosecutor looking into Burisma fired because he was looking into Burisma. Joe Biden should definitely be held responsible for the schit he pulled while trying to shield his son from the legal consequences of his stupidity.

Anyway, thanks for confirming to everyone that you don't have a shred of integrity.

 

[cerebus]

Joe Biden is responsible for getting the prosecutor looking into Burisma fired because he was looking into Burisma.

The prosecutor who had bipartisan agreement that he should be fired for corruption?

Explainer: Biden, allies pushed out Ukrainian prosecutor because he didn't pursue corruption cases

Trump has claimed Biden forced out Ukraine's top prosecutor in order to benefit his son. Former diplomats say the prosecutor wasn't doing his job.

eu.usatoday.com

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

 

[rietrot]

Joe Biden is responsible for getting the prosecutor looking into Burisma fired because he was looking into Burisma. Joe Biden should definitely be held responsible for the schit he pulled while trying to shield his son from the legal consequences of his stupidity.

Anyway, thanks for confirming to everyone that you don't have a shred of integrity.

So you mean there is actual evidence of quid pro quo for personal gain?

 

[buka001]

I saw the fake news that the oh so genuine "Breaking News Live" account was spreading and giving great hope to many here, was just that, fake news and hope to distract conservatives and Trump sycophants from the reality of the proceedings yesterday.

As Sondland testified, a misleading Ukraine story spread among conservatives on social media

The article offered conservatives and Trump loyalists a welcome alternative to the day’s news.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[STS]

For Christians the Bible is more than just History... So no it doesn't work like that.

For people who lived through WW2 or who had family who lived through it, it is also more than just history. His feelings are hurt being told a space fairy didn't flood the planet, imagine how a child of a survivor that lived through a death camp feels being told that their parent is making stuff up

 

[Gingerbeardman]

The prosecutor who had bipartisan agreement that he should be fired for corruption?

That's a load of crap. The people who were moaning about Shokin being "corrupt" were all connected to Soros. Soros, as you may recall, was deeply involved in the Clinton election campaign. But let me guess, you want us to believe that Soros would never do something so crazy as to use his influence to bury Dem dirty laundry before the 2016 elections, amirite?

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

Yup, all connected to Soros. And the Anti-Corruption Action Centre was set up by the same group of Dem politicians who are now in the legal firing line.

But tell us more about what an evil man Trump is for daring to defeat the ends of justice.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

He wasn't corrupt, though. He was fired because he got too close to Burisma, who is corrupt. Not that you care...

 

[cerebus]

Soros.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Cry more.

Soros bands with donors to resist Trump, 'take back power'

Major liberal funders huddle behind closed doors to lick wounds and retrench.

www.politico.com

But he was a defacto partisan in the 2016 elections, and was using every last drop of influence he could. Go find me people not connected to Soros who were concerned about Shokin, otherwise stop wasting everyone's time.

But Biden dindunuffin!

 

[Gingerbeardman]

I saw the fake news that the oh so genuine "Breaking News Live" account was spreading and giving great hope to many here, was just that, fake news and hope to distract conservatives and Trump sycophants from the reality of the proceedings yesterday.

As Sondland testified, a misleading Ukraine story spread among conservatives on social media

The article offered conservatives and Trump loyalists a welcome alternative to the day’s news.

www.nbcnews.com

Sorry, which details in the article specifically prove that it is fake news? You seem to have jumped the gun...

 

[Temujin]

I saw the fake news that the oh so genuine "Breaking News Live" account was spreading and giving great hope to many here, was just that, fake news and hope to distract conservatives and Trump sycophants from the reality of the proceedings yesterday.

As Sondland testified, a misleading Ukraine story spread among conservatives on social media

The article offered conservatives and Trump loyalists a welcome alternative to the day’s news.

www.nbcnews.com

NBC.... shocked

Ukraine widens probe against Burisma founder to embezzlement of state funds

Ukraine has widened its investigation into the founder of energy company Burisma to include suspicion of embezzling state funds, Prosecutor General Ruslan Ryaboshapka said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

Carry on, nothing to see here, just more fairy tales and what not

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Impeachment surprise: How Adam Schiff validated my reporting on Ukraine | John Solomon Reports

The half dozen seminal columns I published for The Hill on Ukraine were already supported by overwhelming documentation (all embedded in the story) and on-the-record interviews captured on video. They made three salient and simple points:

1. Hunter Biden’s hiring by the Ukrainian gas firm Burisma Holdings, while it was under a corruption investigation, posed the appearance of a conflict of interest for his father. That’s because Vice President Joe Biden oversaw US-Ukraine policy and forced the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor overseeing the case.
2. Ukraine officials had an uneasy relationship with our embassy in Kiev because State Department officials exerted pressure on Ukraine prosecutors to drop certain cases against activists, including one group partly funded by George Soros.
3. There were efforts around Ukraine in 2016 to influence the US election, that included a request from a DNC contractor for dirt on Manafort, an OpEd from Ukraine’s US ambassador slamming Trump and the release of law enforcement evidence by Ukrainian officials that a Ukraine court concluded was an improper interference in the US election.

But then Schiff’s witnesses, particularly Kent, added to the narrative. They directly acknowledged at least four of the names Lutsenko gave me in the March interview were the subject of a pressure campaign by the U.S. embassy in Kiev. They included:

• a nonprofit Ukrainian group partly funded by George Soros and the US embassy called the AntiCorruption Action Centre.
• a Ukraine parliamentary member named Sergey Leschenko who helped release the Manafort documents
• a senior law enforcement official named Artem Sytnyk, who also helped release the Manafort documents
• a journalist named Vitali Shabunin, who helped found the above-mentioned nonprofit.

Kent acknowledged he signed an April 2016 letter asking Ukrainian prosecutors to stand down an investigation against the anti-corruption group, and his explanations about the pressure the embassy applied on the Shabunin and Sytnyk probes are worth reading.

“As a matter of conversation that U.S officials had with Ukrainian officials in sharing our concern about the direction of governance and the approach, harassment of civil society activists, including Mr. Shabunin, was one of the issues we raised,” Kent testified.

As for Sytnyk, the head of the NABU anticorruption police, Kent stated: “We warned both Lutsenko and others that efforts to destroy NABU as an organization, including opening up investigations of Sytnyk, threatened to unravel a key component of our anti-corruption cooperation.”

 

[AlmightyBender]

That's a load of crap. The people who were moaning about Shokin being "corrupt" were all connected to Soros. Soros, as you may recall, was deeply involved in the Clinton election campaign. But let me guess, you want us to believe that Soros would never do something so crazy as to use his influence to bury Dem dirty laundry before the 2016 elections, amirite?


Yup, all connected to Soros. And the Anti-Corruption Action Centre was set up by the same group of Dem politicians who are now in the legal firing line.

But tell us more about what an evil man Trump is for daring to defeat the ends of justice.



He wasn't corrupt, though. He was fired because he got too close to Burisma, who is corrupt. Not that you care...

Soros controls the EU and IMF?

@greg0205 pretty please can you do one of those super long hahas for me in response? You do it best.

GBM you jumping the shark here bud, and that is saying something.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

The convoluted theories that people who don't subscribe to reality have to concoct or subscribe to.
Makes me wonder if they're just bored with being alive.
Seriously - it's not that bloody complex, or sinister.

 

[cerebus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197284841613602819

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197269902131974146

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197320791706263552

 

[Gnarls]

The convoluted theories that people who don't subscribe to reality have to concoct or subscribe to.
Makes me wonder if they're just bored with being alive.
Seriously - it's not that bloody complex, or sinister.

Lol, just lol at this twaddle. Nothing substantive just a passive aggressive ad hominem attack. Par for the course I suppose.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Soros controls the EU and IMF?

Highly influential within the EU, I'd have to check with the IMF, but since it's largely the same revolving door bunch of people in most cases (Draghi, Lagaarde etc. etc.)...

Soros buys people and influence by funding their election campaigns. He's been doing it with DAs all over America lately. That's just how he rolls, one day you're going to have to come to terms with it.

George Soros’ Foundation Calls On Fox News To Ban Commentator Joe diGenova For “McCarthyite” Claim

Many conservative and right-wing media outlets covered the first day of the impeachment hearings by characterizing the process as a sham, a bust or boring. But one pundit’s comment stood out:…

deadline.com

Soros will use whatever influence he can to push his agenda, including funding entire groups dedicated to producing political talking points like Media Matters.

GBM you jumping the shark here bud, and that is saying something.

Remind me again how the judge told Flynn's lawyer Sydney Powell off? Your claims of shark jumping are not to be taken seriously, especially now that you've decided to get yourself nicely ensconsed in the ad-hominem mud.

 

[Temujin]

Called it

You should put a trigger warning on that... its in sharpie, some here are going to lose their minds

 

[Unhappy438]

Called it

It seems the memes are triggering you. Rambo tells us about a duck, perhaps that could help?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Lol, just lol at this twaddle. Nothing substantive just a passive aggressive ad hominem attack. Par for the course I suppose.

Ya, she's got a real case of penis envy. Wants to be a dick, but doesn't have the balls to be a real dick...

 

[Gingerbeardman]

It seems the memes are triggering you. Rambo tells us about a duck, perhaps that could help?

Ok boomer.