US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Jesus there are some siff people in this thread at the moment.
Ducking out until you get back to discussing the siff meister after whom this thread is named.

 

[Emjay]

All of your responses is exactly why you should go watch that episode.

How was the comment excused - She is of age, stop white knighting for her, she will still not have sex with you ...

Why was it sexist - It displays a view that women should be kept in "their" place and should not be so vocal, so the best way to keep them quiet is to have them perform oral sex. Honestly - you can laugh and cry about TDS, but the comment was straight forward what it was. Had you come out and said yeah sorry for that, that was a bit too far, it would be cool. But, here you are gaslighting, doubling, down, shifting the narrative and trying to hurl slurs at anyone who called you out for your BS. You shine a light on your own character far better than any poster can expose. I am over it with you. You come off as very creepy old guy, living off a fantasy called Q and posting about sexual acts with teens. I thought you were worth debating with. Not anymore. Triggered? Lol sure if wanting some common decency is what constitutes being a liberal snowflake, then I will buy the t-shirt today.

Equating this forum to the real world - You are missing the point. Watch the episode and you will see what I mean. Tribalism and the Realistic Conflict Theory explain alot about how discussions on this forum, Twitter, Facebook and in real life go, when the topic revolves around subjects such as Politics, race, religion etc.

It's so funny reading this coming from you. You didn't seem to take an issue when someone here was trying to shut me up by using very sexist insults. Now you want to preach to the rest of us. Cute.

 

[Unhappy438]

I don't know. They have been taken over by far left activists who do not represent most of the country's views. If you take something like abortion, Bill Clinton's message of "Safe, Legal and Rare" is something that would resonate across most people.

Actually, things like universal health care and free state college plus eliminating student debt are all popular ideas supported by the majority. They will only get more popular in times of financial crisis.

Abortion is not ranked on the list of massively important so people don't necessarily vote based on that.

It's so funny reading this coming from you. You didn't seem to take an issue when someone here was trying to shut me up by using very sexist insults. Now you want to preach to the rest of us. Cute.

If he did wouldn't he be white knighting hyper partisan jay?

 

[rietrot]

"Greta is a child and should shut up about things she knows nothing about..."

"Perhaps if Greta gave people blow jobs she would shut up for a while..."

Upside down world were the literals want to increase the age of consent because 16 is to young.

If only they were consistent and didn't just apply itto their pet mascot.

 

[buka001]

It's so funny reading this coming from you. You didn't seem to take an issue when someone here was trying to shut me up by using very sexist insults. Now you want to preach to the rest of us. Cute.

True I realise this. Watching that show gave me pause to reflect on alot of the rhetoric here and elsewhere. I am as guilty as anyone here of defending their tribe.

Xarog on ignore. I am moving forward.

 

[Emjay]

If he did wouldn't he be white knighting hyper partisan jay?

Quality content there, 438. Keep trucking sonny boy. One day you will be smart enough to engage with the adults.

 

[buka001]

Upside down world were the literals want to increase the age of consent because 16 is to young.

If only they were consistent and didn't just apply itto their pet mascot.

Liberals like the Idaho Republicans, who blocked a bill that proposed to end child marriage? -

Republican controlled Idaho Congress blocks bill to end child marriage for those under the age of 16

A report found that Idaho had the highest rate of child marriage of 38 states that provided data.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Unhappy438]

Quality content there, 438. Keep trucking sonny boy. One day you will be smart enough to engage with the adults.

Yes but for now ive gotta practice with the children, hence my conversation with you.

 

[konfab]

Actually, things like universal health care and free state college plus eliminating student debt are all popular ideas supported by the majority. They will only get more popular in times of financial crisis.

Until they have to pay for it...

The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent.

However, those numbers shifted dramatically when people were asked about the potential impact, pro and con.

Support increased when people were told “Medicare-for-all” would guarantee health insurance as a right (71 percent) and eliminate premiums and reduce out-of-pocket costs (67 percent).

But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/poll-finds-medicare-for-all-support-drops-when-details-are-included-2019-01-23

 

[rietrot]

Liberals like the Idaho Republicans, who blocked a bill that proposed to end child marriage? -

Republican controlled Idaho Congress blocks bill to end child marriage for those under the age of 16

A report found that Idaho had the highest rate of child marriage of 38 states that provided data.

www.newsweek.com

That's a pretty liberal stance to take, I geuss.
If girls that young can get abortions and go on the pill then I don't see why they can't get married.

 

[Unhappy438]

Until they have to pay for it...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/poll-finds-medicare-for-all-support-drops-when-details-are-included-2019-01-23

Yeah but again, no democrat is proposing higher taxes on the working class. Also the idea about delays is just that and not necessarily embodied in facts. If i ask you do you want a wall, you say yes but if i then ask you what about if it causes a nuclear war you might revisit your answer but its irrelevant because Trump is still offering the wall.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Yeah but again, no democrat is proposing higher taxes on the working class.

Yet that is nevertheless what they will be forced to resort to.

 

[konfab]

Yeah but again, no democrat is proposing higher taxes on the working class. Also the idea about delays is just that and not necessarily embodied in facts. If i ask you do you want a wall, you say yes but if i then ask you what about if it causes a nuclear war you might revisit your answer but its irrelevant because Trump is still offering the wall.

No facts here:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/10/nhs-england-misses-multiple-targets-for-cancer-treatment
Or here:
https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-canadas-medical-wait-times-are-unacceptable
Or here in the Glorious Socialist Paradise of the People's Republic of South Africa:
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/health/2018-07-03-over-8000-people-waiting-for-cataract-surgery-in-kzn-state-hospitals-due-to-ailing-equipment/

Or even here:

waiting times for cataract surgery

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168851013001759

This is basic economics. The government can never fulfil consumer needs as well as a market can.

 

[Emjay]

Yes, but for now I am required to practice with the children, hence my conversation with you.

Gotta? Really, Unhappy? That's the best you have? You know what Google is really good for? Fixing spelling mistakes. Grammerly is also another option, but I suspect it will be a bit too expensive for you.

 

[Emjay]

This is basic economics.

It's a zero sum game to them... If only markets worked in such a manner. We could have solved all of our issues over night.

 

[konfab]

It's a zero sum game to them... If only markets worked in such a manner. We could have solved all of our issues over night.

Disagree.
If markets were a zero sum game, we would still be sitting in the stone age. Oh we would all be equal, but equally poor and miserable. No Twitter to complain about how evil capitalism is.

 

[cerebus]

It's so funny reading this coming from you. You didn't seem to take an issue when someone here was trying to shut me up by using very sexist insults. Now you want to preach to the rest of us. Cute.

Who was that?

 

[Emjay]

Disagree.
If markets were a zero sum game, we would still be sitting in the stone age. Oh we would all be equal, but equally poor and miserable. No Twitter to complain about how evil capitalism is.

Good point, but I meant it more from the modern dilemma of resource distribution.

 

[konfab]

Good point, but I meant it more from the modern dilemma of resource distribution.

It comes from a complete lack of understanding on how wealth is created.

This is a lovely article that illustrates the point.
https://www.aier.org/article/the-market-is-a-symphony-of-creation/

 

[vigras rojara]

Gotta? Really, Unhappy? That's the best you have? You know what Google is really good for? Fixing spelling mistakes. Grammerly is also another option, but I suspect it will be a bit too expensive for you.

It's "Grammarly".