US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

Will Trump be impeached?

  • Hell yeah he's guilty as a mofo

    Votes: 35 21.2%
  • He's gonna keep triggering leftards until 2024

    Votes: 100 60.6%
  • Whoever made this poll clearly has no idea how impeachment works

    Votes: 30 18.2%

  • Total voters
    165

Unhappy438

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Gotta? Really, Unhappy? That's the best you have? You know what Google is really good for? Fixing spelling mistakes. Grammerly is also another option, but I suspect it will be a bit too expensive for you.
Yeah google is also good for showing you up

 

Unhappy438

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Shock horror, Torries purposely tank NHS and then point to how ineffective it is. A number of other issues, why isnt the US there for comparison?

Lets do that then shall we



Wow, would you look at that.
 

konfab

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Shock horror, Torries purposely tank NHS and then point to how ineffective it is. A number of other issues, why isnt the US there for comparison?
Oh right, the Tories in multiple countries. Was it the Tories in South Africa that are responsible for the waiting times in public healthcare?
And even then there is no evidence for the Tory conspiracy.

Spending has simply gone up, it has never gone down. Its almost as if they are running out of other people's money.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-42572110

As for your graph, please provide a source. We don't deal with fake news in this thread.
Also are those graphs for GP and A&E?
 

greg0205

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First, ugh... Donnie's on our side of the world and in our time zones.

Second, Donnie wouldn't be Donnie if he wasn't Donnie-ing... Asked about Andrew stepping down from royal duties he just said:

"I don't know Prince Andrew, but that's a tough story, it's a very tough story, I don't know."

Here's Donnie not knowing Andrew at Westminster Abbey:


Here's Donnie not knowing Andrew as they certainly don't take a stroll together:


And here's Donnie not knowing Andrew at a party with their pal, Jeff, who Donnie also doesn't know:
 

greg0205

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Boris Johnson looks to avoid damaging Trump meeting during NATO gathering

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Before Trump traveled to London on Monday for the NATO meeting, people close to Johnson notified the White House that there would be no formal meeting given the Dec. 12 U.K. election, these people said. They said the message from the British was that now is not the time for a meeting with Trump, who is deeply unpopular in the U.K.
And...
A survey in the U.K. from Nov. 2018 to Nov. 2019 found 67 percent of people have a negative opinion of Trump, according to the international polling firm YouGov in London.
And...
A formal meeting typically would generate images of the leaders together, public statements about the bond between their countries and questions from reporters about their relationship that could complicate Johnson’s campaign message. His opponent, Jeremy Corbyn, has tried to tether Johnson to Trump and accused him of negotiating a trade deal with the White House that would put Britain’s public health system at risk.
And...
Johnson’s team has prepared a possible response to any criticism from Trump, according to two people familiar with the plans.
 

Aquila ka Hecate

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I'm only surprised that it's not 99% of Brits having a negative view of Trump.
Say what you like about them, most Brits can spot a tosser a mile away.

Edit: Yeah and sometimes they vote for them.
But then it's more likely to be an upper-middle class tosser who half the population feels genetically bound to obey, not some gutter trash like the Trump family scion.
 

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greg0205

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This is very good. The courts will uphold congressional subpoenas. Makes me wish Schiff wasn’t in such a hurry to move to the next step of the impeachment without forcing testimonies from certain witnesses
Yup.

Half the folk on the Hill are okay with a monarch; the judiciary still feel the founders had a point when they wrote the separation of powers into the first three articles of the constitution.
 

greg0205

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Well, would you look at that... A Number One best seller with no dagger to signify RNC and TPUSA bulk orders.

The Inside Story of Christopher Steele’s Trump Dossier

For nearly three years, President Trump has spun an alternate reality in which he was not helped and tainted by Russia during the 2016 Presidential campaign but, rather, his political opponents and his accusers were. During a rambling fifty-three-minute live phone interview with “Fox & Friends” on Friday, Trump insisted again that the plot to block his election and bring him down once he was installed in the White House was “perhaps the biggest scandal in the history of our country.”

On Tuesday, two of the President’s most prolific accusers plan to disrupt the narrative by telling their own story. Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch, the co-founders of the Washington-based private-investigative firm Fusion GPS, which has mined deep veins of muck on Trump for years, at the behest of his various political enemies, will try to throw the book at Trump with the publication of “Crime in Progress: Inside the Steele Dossier and the Fusion GPS Investigation of Donald Trump.”

Fusion was the firm that hired the former British spy Christopher Steele to research Trump’s ties to Russia during the 2016 campaign. After nearly three years without a word from Steele, while the so-called pee tape and his other sensational findings sparked furious controversy, the former M.I.6 spy speaks directly and on the record about his own part for the first time in the book, an advance copy of which was given to The New Yorker.

Whether Simpson and Fritsch’s score-settling, tell-all account will change any minds remains to be seen, but they present a mountain of evidence that Trump’s dealings with corrupt foreign players—particularly those from the former Soviet Union—are both real and go back decades. Steele’s dossier has been debated, denounced, derided, and occasionally defended almost since the moment it was first published, in January, 2017, by BuzzFeed News, against Steele’s wishes. Although Carl Bernstein helped to break the news of its existence on CNN, his friend and Watergate-reporting partner Bob Woodward dismissed it almost instantly as “garbage.” During impeachment-hearing testimony last week, the former White House national-security adviser Fiona Hill, one of America’s foremost experts on Russia and a professional acquaintance of Steele’s, described the dossier as “a rabbit hole” and suggested that Steele may have been “played.” But the authors defend Steele’s work, and their own, arguing that it has proved “strikingly right.”

As the authors tell it, they became obsessed with Trump almost accidentally. Their involvement in his campaign began as a business proposition. In the past, they had worked mostly for corporate clients, but in 2012 they had also done some political-opposition research on the Republican Presidential nominee, Mitt Romney. (They declined to disclose their client.) So, in 2015, as Trump gained momentum, but before he clinched the nomination, Simpson and Fritsch again decided to look for political work. After firing off a quick e-mail to a big conservative donor they knew who disliked Trump, they were hired. They don’t identify that donor but note, helpfully, that he arranged for them to contract their opposition-research assignment through the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative Web site known to be funded by Paul Singer, a New York hedge-fund magnate. Once Trump secured the nomination, however, the G.O.P. donor fled.

At that point, Fusion switched clients and political parties, pitching its services to Marc Elias, the lawyer for the D.N.C. and Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign. Clinton’s identity, too, was kept hidden, in this case behind the screen of Elias’s law firm, Perkins Coie. In the beginning, Clinton’s identity was also hidden from Steele, who knew only that Fusion was hiring him in the late spring of 2016, as a contractor, to investigate the tangled web of Trump’s ties to Russia for an unknown patron. Contrary to the conspiracy theories that the right later spread, Simpson and Fritsch write that they never met or spoke with Clinton. “As far as Fusion knew, Clinton herself had no idea who they were. To this day, no one in the company has ever met or spoken to her,” the book reads. As I reported, although Steele went to the F.B.I. with his findings out of a sense of duty and, by the late summer of 2016, knew that the F.B.I. was seriously investigating Trump’s Russian ties, the communication channels were so siloed that the Clinton campaign was unaware of these facts. Far from conspiring in a plot, the Clinton team had no hard evidence that the F.B.I. was investigating its opponent, even as its own opposition researcher was feeding dirt to the F.B.I. As one top Clinton campaign official told me when I wrote about Steele, “If I’d known the F.B.I. was investigating Trump, I would have been shouting it from the rooftops!”

Recent news reports have suggested that Michael Horowitz, the Justice Department’s Inspector General, in a forthcoming report, will also knock down some of the conspiracy theories surrounding Steele, including the false claim that his dossier prompted the F.B.I. to investigate Trump. F.B.I. officials have repeatedly said that their investigation was already under way when Steele tried to alert them. But Horowitz’s assessment, which is expected to be released publicly on December 9th, also reportedly includes some criticism of Steele, and of the F.B.I.’s relationship with him.

According to the Fusion GPS founders, the real story of their role in the Trump investigation was filled with missed cues and human foibles. They portray themselves as hardened gumshoes who became concerned and tried to do their civic duty and report “a crime in progress,” which has been spun by their detractors into a conspiracy.

Thanks New Yorker, I might have missed this if not for your tweet.
 

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