US Politics and Trump Category IV - I've never even heard of one that big before

Will Trump be impeached?

  • Hell yeah he's guilty as a mofo

    Votes: 40 21.1%
  • He's gonna keep triggering leftards until 2024

    Votes: 112 58.9%
  • Whoever made this poll clearly has no idea how impeachment works

    Votes: 38 20.0%

  • Total voters
    190
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Temujin

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The House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on Monday morning to receive presentations of evidence from investigators as it moves forward with crafting articles of impeachment against President Trump.

Well this is gonna be a quick hearing :ROFL:
 

TysonRoux

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Orangutanman's friend, Rocket Man, is getting busy again.

 

TysonRoux

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How does Bill's transgretions compare to Orangutanman's?

And who were the Republicans that were the most vocal in their demands for his impeachment?

President Clinton impeached

After nearly 14 hours of debate, the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice. Clinton, the second president in American history to be impeached, vowed to finish his term.

In November 1995, Clinton began an affair with Monica Lewinsky, a 21-year-old unpaid intern. Over the course of a year and a half, the president and Lewinsky had nearly a dozen sexual encounters in the White House. In April 1996, Lewinsky was transferred to the Pentagon. That summer, she first confided in Pentagon co-worker Linda Tripp about her sexual relationship with the president. In 1997, with the relationship over, Tripp began secretly to record conversations with Lewinsky, in which Lewinsky gave Tripp details about the affair.
 

konfab

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So you can go into deep debt to finance your healthcare? What an insanely horrible idea.
We are reaching deep levels of irony here...
The elimination of existing systems would be offset by a large increase in government payrolls. A Mercatus Center study estimated that Medicare for All would cost the federal government around $32 trillion. These estimates do not include likely increases in Medicare and Medicaid rates required to lessen losses to hospitals and doctors.

Who will pay for these enormous costs? The federal government cannot cover them without new revenue, as the current U.S. debt is already $22 trillion, with the annual deficit exceeding $1 trillion per year in 2020 and beyond. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that Medicare for All would require tripling of payroll taxes or more than doubling all other taxes. The Mercatus Center, however, found that “doubling all federal individual and corporate income taxes going forward would be insufficient to fully finance the plan.”
https://fortune.com/2019/04/24/medicare-for-all-plan-costs/

This is broadly aligned with PocohantusCare
Warren's campaign, with the aid of prominent economists and health policy experts, produced its own, lower-end estimate: $20.5 trillion. She reached that figure in large part by requiring state and local government to continue paying the $6 trillion they now spend on Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program and public employee premiums. Her plan also assumes that, under a Medicare for All system, there will be significant reductions in health care spending, including lower administrative costs and prescription drug prices.
Lots of assumptions for a government that is as loose with spending as a Sandton girl with her daddy's credit card.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/01/politics/elizabeth-warren-medicare-for-all-financing-plan/index.html

You can pick one of the following:
Option 1) Make future generations go into deep debt that they will never be able to repay. Bear in mind that the US is already f__ked in terms of unfunded liabilities.
Option 2) Accept the fact that individual debt is probably the least worst way of doing it. For one it actually contains the costs of healthcare because healthcare professionals will know that they cannot charge too much when billing an individual patient.

If doctors rip off their patients too much, they simply won't get the money.

And as for "horrible debt", if you see what 'muricans are spending their debt capacity on, they can take a hit:
The cycle of “buy and borrow” continued this year. After covering off on basic necessities, Americans allocated nearly equal amounts of their monthly income to debt repayment and discretionary expenses (an average 36% and 37%, respectively).

Looking closer at the nature of discretionary spending, dining and nightlife emerged as the top category (15%). Other mentions included:
  • Personal passions/hobbies: 13%
  • Personal care: 13%
  • Clothing: 13%
  • Leisure travel: 10%
https://news.northwesternmutual.com/planning-and-progress-2018
 

AlmightyBender

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And people call Trump nasty.

Imagine if Biden were to become President? Oh, man. Now that would be interesting.
Yep we do call him nasty. Because he is. As is biden, which none of us support. Ones nastiness is independent of the other and neither of them justify the others nastiness.

It would suck of biden was president.
 

rietrot

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Yep we do call him nasty. Because he is. As is biden, which none of us support. Ones nastiness is independent of the other and neither of them justify the others nastiness.

It would suck of biden was president.
Lol well the Dem primaries is already rigged in his favour. You are getting Biden as your candidate.
 

cerebus

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You can pick one of the following:
Option 1) Make future generations go into deep debt that they will never be able to repay. Bear in mind that the US is already f__ked in terms of unfunded liabilities.
So let's see, I pay €300 a month in the Netherlands for my entire family's medical insurance, and of course quite a large chunk from taxes. In return I get excellent comprehensive healthcare for everyone, and we've already managed to take care of a lot of issues that were left in South Africa. I have gripes, mainly around the reluctance of GPs to prescribe medication when needed, but generally I'm very happy and I'm confident that if a crisis happened our family would be covered.

Option 2) Accept the fact that individual debt is probably the least worst way of doing it. For one it actually contains the costs of healthcare because healthcare professionals will know that they cannot charge too much when billing an individual patient.

If doctors rip off their patients too much, they simply won't get the money.

And as for "horrible debt", if you see what 'muricans are spending their debt capacity on, they can take a hit:

https://news.northwesternmutual.com/planning-and-progress-2018
Yeah let's move to a system where people have to set up GoFundMe campaigns to get people to sponsor their medical care, and still end up dying because they're $50 short on their target for insulin. When 57% of Americans couldn't cover $500 of emergency debt you want them to pay $20,000 for a surprise health issue.
 

Emjay

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Oh come on, Trump is 100x nastier than Biden on Biden's worst day
Stop pearl clutching. You know that Trump's nastiness gets far more coverage than anything Biden does. It's a tongue in cheek comment at that.
 
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