US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Of course they are, including President Biden. You know who isn't? My man, Bernie Sanders.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1403779224104628225

You're right, he isn't part of the elite. But he told everyone to support the Dem candidate regardless...he had some well-thought criticisms of Hilary Clinton and then folded, which was a bit sad and I think many people considered his endorsement has a bit fake. There was no need for him to fold - he's an independent and the people of Vermont give him thumping majorities. I would have really liked to see a Sanders v Trump showdown but alas....

 

[cerebus]

You're right, he isn't part of the elite. But he told everyone to support the Dem candidate regardless...he had some well-thought criticisms of Hilary Clinton and then folded, which was a bit sad and I think many people considered his endorsement has a bit fake. There was no need for him to fold - he's an independent and the people of Vermont give him thumping majorities. I would have really liked to see a Sanders v Trump showdown but alas....

What was his alternative, letting his base go to Trump? He did the best thing he could.

 

[buka001]

Whose power station are they building?

You can bet they would be very good with the risk if it was their money on the line.

It bankrupted them. It sunk an entire company. 1 project.

The risks were there from day 1. And it was their money.

Liquidated damages for poor performance, meant their money.

 

[rietrot]

It bankrupted them. It sunk an entire company. 1 project.

The risks were there from day 1. And it was their money.

Liquidated damages for poor performance, meant their money.

I don't get your point?

Companies that make bad decisions should go bankrupt.

This is capitalism working as it should, so what's the problem?

I initially said private companies are better at assessing risk than government, which remains true. And also its their own money not mine so who cares.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

What was his alternative, letting his base go to Trump? He did the best thing he could.

Offering no endorsement?

 

[konfab]

It bankrupted them. It sunk an entire company. 1 project.

The risks were there from day 1.

So they ignored them and faced the consequences no?

That is the market working isn't it. You know unlike the government system where the consequences for all the risks is zero as they will get bailed out by taxpayers held at gunpoint.

 

[Unhappy438]

What billionaires?

Probably all of them, except those nasty ones that banned orange god.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Thank heavens for the federal system in the US. Bad ideas like this get penalised.

 

[Unhappy438]

Offering no endorsement?

Why would that be a better alternative? He obviously felt that if he could even get one of his ideas through then he had a better chance of doing it with Joe.

That's already proven to be true.

So they ignored them and faced the consequences no?

That is the market working isn't it. You know unlike the government system where the consequences for all the risks is zero as they will get bailed out by taxpayers held at gunpoint.

False, the consequences are what the Republicans are going through now. Having control of 0/3 branches after orange man.

Btw 2008 banking crisis called, those guys certainly paid the consequences hey? There are many times where shareholders/common folk are bailing these ultra wealthy out.

 

[cerebus]

Thank heavens for the federal system in the US. Bad ideas like this get penalised.

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I wish companies were forced to disclose salaries when advertising jobs. It would cut down on so much wasted time. It's the bane of my life.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Why would that be a better alternative? He obviously felt that if he could even get one of his ideas through then he had a better chance of doing it with Joe.

That's already proven to be true.



False, the consequences are what the Republicans are going through now. Having control of 0/3 branches after orange man.

Btw 2008 banking crisis called, those guys certainly paid the consequences hey? There are many times where shareholders/common folk are bailing these ultra wealthy out.

Cerebrus and I were actually talking about Clinton. I don't think his attacks were that potent on Biden as Dem primary voters just wanted to vote for someone they considered the most electable. He also gave up far more easily in 2020 than in 2016. I think the only reason Biden included Sanders in his policy groups because there was a theory going around in Dem circles that Sanders supporters either stayed at home or hated Clinton so much they voted for Trump. I'm not aware that Clinton actually offered anything tangible to Sanders but Biden did (sort of) so I can see why Sander endorsed Biden.

 

[Unhappy438]

Cerebrus and I were actually talking about Clinton. I don't think his attacks were that potent on Biden as Dem primary voters just wanted to vote for someone they considered the most electable. He also gave up far more easily in 2020 than in 2016.

Oh right fair enough.

 

[konfab]

Btw 2008 banking crisis called, those guys certainly paid the consequences hey? There are many times where shareholders/common folk are bailing these ultra wealthy out.

No doubt, but I am not the one defending a system that requires the government to intervene in the economy. In my world, there wouldn't have been the subprime crisis because there would never have been a federally backed system to provide discounted homeloans to people who cannot afford them. Then we can go into the reason why shares and other assets are so highly valued, which again, is because of the government system that you are willing to die on a hill on.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Why would that be a better alternative? He obviously felt that if he could even get one of his ideas through then he had a better chance of doing it with Joe.

That's already proven to be true.



False, the consequences are what the Republicans are going through now. Having control of 0/3 branches after orange man.

Btw 2008 banking crisis called, those guys certainly paid the consequences hey? There are many times where shareholders/common folk are bailing these ultra wealthy out.

I really don't understand why Dem supporters like you think capitalists don't support arresting or charging rich people if an actual crime is committed? This is not a foundational belief of capitalists.

Of course, we recognize that big business has its fair share of criminals and the like.

 

[konfab]

I really don't understand why Dem supporters like you think capitalists don't support arresting or charging rich people if an actual crime is committed? This is not a foundational belief of capitalists.

Of course, we recognize that big business has its fair share of criminals and the like.

I do.

The reason is that progressives genuinely believe that a human being magically loses their ability to be greedy, stupid and vindictive the moment their bum hits that sweet, sweet, government office chair, which is why only the government should be in charge of every facet of people's lives.

I on the other hand know that there are plenty of people who are stupid, greedy and vindictive, hence you need an economic system that is tolerant to people like that being in them. Government, especially large governments like the ones that progressives wet themselves over, are absolute sitting ducks for people like this.

 

[cerebus]

The reason is that progressives genuinely believe that a human being magically loses their ability to be greedy, stupid and vindictive the moment their bum hits that sweet, sweet, government office chair

Must be why Trump had 2 impeachments and is now facing a grand jury in NYC around Trump Org

 

[RanzB]

I really don't understand why Dem supporters like you think capitalists don't support arresting or charging rich people if an actual crime is committed? This is not a foundational belief of capitalists.

Weird how we never hear about these capitalists demanding stricter laws for those who caused crashes like in 2008, and those same 'capitalists' call everyone who tries to implement stricter laws socialists.

Government, especially large governments like the ones that progressives wet themselves over, are absolute sitting ducks for people like this.

And yet you people never complain when conservatives make government bigger. Why is that

 

[greg0205]

I really don't understand why Dem supporters like you think capitalists don't support arresting or charging rich people if an actual crime is committed? This is not a foundational belief of capitalists.

Of course, we recognize that big business has its fair share of criminals and the like.

Here's a complete list of all of the US capitalists who went to jail for causing the 2008 crisis:

1. Kareem Serageldin






















That's it.

 

[greg0205]

Russian Ron says what?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1405702375495454720

Russian Ron on twitter, July 4th 2018.

Russian Ron in Moscow, July 4th, 2018.

Why do the "patriots" at Fox and in the QoP love Russia and hate America so much?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Here's a complete list of all of the US capitalists who went to jail for causing the 2008 crisis:

1. Kareem Serageldin






















That's it.

With a terrorists name like that, he probably deserves it