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tetrasect

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I thought the McCloskeys did nothing wrong?


The St. Louis couple that shot to national prominence for waving guns at protesters outside their house last summer agreed to a plea deal Thursday that will allow them to avoid jail time. Instead of facing felony charges in court, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to a pair of misdemeanors and will pay a small fine. Mark McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth-degree assault; Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment. The couple, both in their early sixties, had faced felony firearm charges for their display last year that ricocheted around the internet, drawing the attention of Republican politicians climbed over one another pledging to absolve the pair of personal injury attorneys.

As part of the plea deal, the McCloskeys must forfeit the AR-15 and semiautomatic handgun brandished that day, but their guilty pleas won’t affect their ability to own guns, nor will it hinder their law practice.

In other words their punishment is that instead of going to prison they have to go to Walmart and buy another AR-15.
 

greg0205

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^ Mike Parson said he'd pardon them if they were convicted. Wonder if he'll still bother.
 

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I thought the McCloskeys did nothing wrong?


The St. Louis couple that shot to national prominence for waving guns at protesters outside their house last summer agreed to a plea deal Thursday that will allow them to avoid jail time. Instead of facing felony charges in court, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to a pair of misdemeanors and will pay a small fine. Mark McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth-degree assault; Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment. The couple, both in their early sixties, had faced felony firearm charges for their display last year that ricocheted around the internet, drawing the attention of Republican politicians climbed over one another pledging to absolve the pair of personal injury attorneys.

As part of the plea deal, the McCloskeys must forfeit the AR-15 and semiautomatic handgun brandished that day, but their guilty pleas won’t affect their ability to own guns, nor will it hinder their law practice.
Good decision I think.

“the age and lack of a criminal record for the McCloskey’s, the fact they initially called the police, and the fact that no one was hurt and no shots were fired.”
 

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Capitalism was fair and equal opportunity. In other words, a person from absolute poverty should be able to get to the top. Prior a single income could support a family.

I think these are all reasonable expectations of capitalism.

The ultra wealthy are rigging the system so that they cant do that now though. Then we get the likes of Konfab and Chris with the surprised Pikachu face when the common folk want to burn it all down.
You're pointing to the failure of capitalism to live up to it's promises. This is not because the system we see today is not capitalism, it is capitalism - it's because capitalism inevitably fails when it comes to ensuring fair and equal opportunity to all.
 

tetrasect

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You're pointing to the failure of capitalism to live up to it's promises. This is not because the system we see today is not capitalism, it is capitalism - it's because capitalism inevitably fails when it comes to ensuring fair and equal opportunity to all.

Unfortunately every system has failed when it comes to ensuring fair and equal opportunity to all.
 

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Relevant to todays discussions.
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Once again, dishonest. Is your dishonesty deliberate or are you just ignorant? Link

Hahaha clearly it is you who are ignorant. Sorry to burst your loony echo chamber bubble.
Your lord and master, the Democrats, clearly are so woke that businesses are going broke..... frikken loony left.

Countless stores closing shop in San Francisco thanks to law that effectively legalizes shoplifting up to $950


SAN FRANCISCO, CA- Brazen shoplifting in San Francisco has forced more than a dozen Walgreens drug stores to close over the last five years thanks to a law that legalizes shoplifting of up to $950 worth of goods.

The City Council passed Prop 47, which is the ordinance that prevents police officers from arresting or even stopping anyone who steals less than $950 worth of goods.

 

tetrasect

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Hahaha clearly it is you who are ignorant. Sorry to burst your loony echo chamber bubble.
Your lord and master, the Democrats, clearly are so woke that businesses are going broke..... frikken loony left.

Countless stores closing shop in San Francisco thanks to law that effectively legalizes shoplifting up to $950


SAN FRANCISCO, CA- Brazen shoplifting in San Francisco has forced more than a dozen Walgreens drug stores to close over the last five years thanks to a law that legalizes shoplifting of up to $950 worth of goods.

The City Council passed Prop 47, which is the ordinance that prevents police officers from arresting or even stopping anyone who steals less than $950 worth of goods.


You really believe any old trash that you read don't you?

And then you still embarrass yourself further by posting it on here while talking about "loony echo chamber bubbles" and the "frikken loony left". :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Here is what you define as "legalizing shoplifting":

  • Shoplifting. The proposition 47 added Penal Code section 459.5 to create a new misdemeanor offense called "shoplifting," punishable by up to 6 months in county jail. Shoplifting would be defined as "entering a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny while that establishment is open during regular business hours" where the value of the property does not exceed $950. Any other entry into a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny is burglary. Any act of shoplifting as defined above must be charged as shoplifting. No person charged with shoplifting may also be charged with burglary or theft of the same property.

And in case you haven't heard, Walgreens is closing stores across the US, not just in San Francisco:


I seriously suggest you get some kind of help. You need someone to sit beside you to train you how to distinguish fact from fiction, because you're being taken for a ride down insanity lane and you don't even know it.
 

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You really believe any old trash that you read don't you?

And then you still embarrass yourself further by posting it on here while talking about "loony echo chamber bubbles" and the "frikken loony left". :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Here is what you define as "legalizing shoplifting":

  • Shoplifting. The proposition 47 added Penal Code section 459.5 to create a new misdemeanor offense called "shoplifting," punishable by up to 6 months in county jail. Shoplifting would be defined as "entering a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny while that establishment is open during regular business hours" where the value of the property does not exceed $950. Any other entry into a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny is burglary. Any act of shoplifting as defined above must be charged as shoplifting. No person charged with shoplifting may also be charged with burglary or theft of the same property.

And in case you haven't heard, Walgreens is closing stores across the US, not just in San Francisco:


I seriously suggest you get some kind of help. You need someone to sit beside you to train you how to distinguish fact from fiction, because you're being taken for a ride down insanity lane and you don't even know it.

EFFECTIVELY.

Do you know what that word means??

It means even if the law says that you can get punished up to 6 months, DOESN'T mean you will get 1 or 6 months or any jail time. Get it?
And the police clearly aren't taking it that seriously. Get it?
Clearly the new law has emboldened criminals who rob for that $950 mark and just don't care. That is on the people who introduced the law. Democrats.


"Now, organized gangs of thieves gather together and run into a store as a group to grab everything and anything they can carry out of the store knowing full well that the police nor the store owners can do a thing to stop them.

According to reports, authorities stated that criminal gangs are responsible for the vast majority of thefts, which are of course causing businesses millions of dollars in losses. District 11 Supervisor for CVS, Ahsha Safai, said in a statement:

“85 percent of their loss is committed by organized criminal activity. That to me was just shocking.”

Safai added:

“They will rob about maybe $1,000-$2,000 worth of goods from each store from 10 stores or more in a single day.”

Reportedly, 17 Walgreens stores have closed over the last five years because of shoplifting. San Francisco has become one of the epicenters for organized retail crime in the United States and the repeated closures of these stores hurt Walgreens’ neighbors. Safai said:

“It impacts everyone. Impacts seniors, impacts families, impacts the small businesses in the area. It’s bad all the way around.”

Safai added that the theft is completely out of control and local residents are afraid to enter the store because of the gangs roaming the aisles. Safai said:

“This has been uncontrolled. Individuals are scared to enter these shops. Seniors, folks with disabilities, kids. It’s simply taking place overtly. We aren’t able to simply as a metropolis throw up our arms and say that is OK. We now have to provide you with options.”

Safai is calling on police and prosecutors to do a better job at protecting these businesses, like in a large bust in 2020 that uncovered $20 million in stolen products. Safai said:

“It’s not that nothing has been done, but certainly we need to do better.”

Law Enforcement Today recently reported that although shoplifting did decrease during the COVID-19 pandemic, police also stated that the shoplifting incidents have been “underreported” and “have become more violent and brazen.”

Stores such as Walgreens, CVS, and other convenience store chains are closing their doors in several locations in the city because their product loss rate has climbed more than 100 percent.

CVS revealed just how lopsided the theft is in the city. Brendan Dugan, director of organized retail crime and company investigations with CVS said:

“At CVS, 42 percent of losses within the Bay Space got here from 12 shops in San Francisco, that are solely 8 percent of the market share.”

These closures happening around the city hits vulnerable elderly residents the most since these stores are also pharmacies and when these locations close so do their pharmacies, leaving the elderly patients unable to get their life-saving prescriptions filled.

The closures also hurt people who do not have access to cars because instead of being able to walk down to the corner store, they now have to travel several miles to find a place to shop. It seems that this is just another instance where Democrats care more about criminals than they do the taxpayers and law-abiding citizens of their city."
 
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