US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

[Temujin]

 

[greg0205]

Seen from another perspective, there was such a brouhaha about what they did, yet all that came from it was a misdemeanour plea deal.

The real story should be about the hundreds of millions of dollars of property damage caused by BLM protesters, none of whom were prosecuted (persecuted?) with the level of fervour that the McCloskeys were.

No.

The real story is how law enforcement treats black folks and white folks differently.

When black parents no longer have to teach their kids how *not* to be killed by cops at a run-of-the-mill traffic stop we can talk about the fervour of prosecuting a rich, white couple.

 

[tetrasect]

EFFECTIVELY.

Do you know what that word means??

It means even if the law says that you can get punished up to 6 months, DOESN'T mean you will get 1 or 6 months or any jail time. Get it?
And the police clearly aren't taking it that seriously. Get it?
Clearly the new law has emboldened criminals who rob for that $950 mark and just don't care. That is on the people who introduced the law. Democrats.

“They will rob about maybe $1,000-$2,000 worth of goods from each store from 10 stores or more in a single day.”

So in other words they are stealing more than $950 worth, rendering your whole BS argument null and void again.

 

[SoldierMan]

No.

The real story is how law enforcement treats black folks and white folks differently.

When black parents no longer have to teach their kids how *not* to be killed by cops at a run-of-the-mill traffic stop we can talk about the fervour of prosecuting a rich, white couple.

Rubbish.

Twice as many white people are killed every year by police than black people. You accept the false narrative they constantly brainwash you with.

If the media ALSO REPORTED on white people being killed by cops and not just push and push and push that it is only black people do you think things like this (below video) would happen?

What this guy in the video says is true. The media are becoming the cause of bad blood between black and white in the USA. They are pushing real real real hard that blacks are hard done by by white people. It will have consequences like this shooting.

The legacy media only reports when blacks are harmed when whites are targeted it doesn't get as much attention or hype. Dangerous.

Why would he say this:

“Basically, he explained throughout his life, specifically white males had taken from him and also what he described as military-looking white males had taken from him,” Detective Brandon Lockhart said of Justin Tyran Roberts during a preliminary hearing.

The media told him that's what is happening, that's why.

Coward Goes on Shooting Spree for White People​

 

[SoldierMan]

So in other words they are stealing more than $950 worth, rendering your whole BS argument null and void again.

They, more than one person genius, you divide that between several people and boom you're under $950.

But hey, you live in a world where you support the Democrat's insane policies of going easy on crime. Why do you think more Democrat run cities are literally becoming chitholes. Faeces on the streets, drugs, tent cities, they are a complete mess. Nice going Democrats.

 

[Temujin]

Rubbish.

Twice as many white people are killed every year by police than black people. You accept the false narrative they constantly brainwash you with.

If the media ALSO REPORTED on white people being killed by cops and not just push and push and push that it is only black people do you think things like this (below video) would happen?

What this guy in the video says is true. The media are becoming the cause of bad blood between black and white in the USA. They are pushing real real real hard that blacks are hard done by by white people. It will have consequences like this shooting.

The legacy media only reports when blacks are harmed when whites are targeted it doesn't get nbeat as much attention or hype. Dangerous.

Why would he say this:



The media told him that's what is happening, that why.

Coward Goes on Shooting Spree for White People​

#notrealraciallymotivatedmassshooting

 

[tetrasect]

They, more than one person genius, you divide that between several people and boom you're under $950.

But hey, you live in a world where you support the Democrat's insane policies of going easy on crime. Why do you think more Democrat run cities are literally becoming chitholes. Faeces on the streets, drugs, tent cities, they are a complete mess. Nice going Democrats.

You live in an alternate reality made of lies dude.

 

[lumeer]

No.

The real story is how law enforcement treats black folks and white folks differently.

When black parents no longer have to teach their kids how *not* to be killed by cops at a run-of-the-mill traffic stop we can talk about the fervour of prosecuting a rich, white couple.

Is it really the case though that black suffer police brutality more on the basis of their race, even when you control for confounding factors like socioeconomic status? Is it not that poor communities have both more violent criminals and more black people in them? By way of example, I don't think that police specifically target men yet most people who are shot by police are men.

 

[SoldierMan]

You live in an alternate reality made of lies dude.

You aren't familiar with what is growing in Democrat run cities, that's all. Literal chitholes is the new trend.

 

[SoldierMan]

Is it really the case though that black people get shot more on the basis of their race, even when you control for confounding factors like socioeconomic status? Is it not that poor communities have both more violent criminals and more black people in them? By way of example, I don't think that police specifically target men yet most people who are shot by police are men.

Don't bother. He has been successfully brainwashed. What the media pumps out fills his brain and he sees nothing else.

The police in America have been militarised, THAT is the problem.

The shooting targets the police use for practise now include pregnant women and little children to desensitise, the targets are of white women and children by the way.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

And why do you think that is? Take a wild guess, it's not really a choice for a lot of working class kids. And what do you have against making it easier for those kids who do make that tough choice to be able to get an easier start to life, as opposed to being debt ridden for as significant part of that?




Some students actually have to pay for that benefit and their upkeep, whilst others do not. They have rich parents who can provide support. The problem is that a lot of the people born in privilege don't seem to see their privilege and will judge those born not so lucky.

Where would you be today if your parent threw you to the curb at 18 and told you to fend for yourself?

It's almost as if you want them to spend the rest of their life flipping burgers. And we know what you think of burger flippers.



Ummm....ok. Are you jealous of the working class truck driver earning $5000+ salary a year? I mean, it's almost like flipping burgers, and you get paid for it.

There are a multitude of reasons that people don't go to college, it's not just finances. I know this might be a shock to you but many jobs, and especially those done by the working class don't require degrees. On top of that, before manufacturing went offshore (Biden better be working his damn hardest every single day to make America produce things again), you could easily earn a good salary as you were taught skills on the job. You can still earn a good salary in some jobs that don't require degrees, but it is just much harder these days.

Yes, of course some parents pay for the fees of their offspring and that's good their good fortune. It still doesn't take away from my main point that regardless of your parents' financial situation, you will generally gain a financial advantage over those who did not (certain degrees notwithstanding). It was your choice to attend college, no-one is pointing a gun at your head forcing you to go. The loan system ensures you don't have to worry about finances while studying but if you are paying attention, you will know exactly how much you need to pay when payments become due. A bit of financial planning will help here - it's not like the loan is a sudden, unexpected expense.

 

[DA-LION-619]

There are a multitude of reasons that people don't go to college, it's not finances. I know this might be a shock to you but many jobs, and especially those done by the working class don't require degrees. On top of that, before manufacturing went offshore (Biden better be working his damn hardest every single day to make America produce things again), you could easily earn a good salary as you were taught skills on the job. You can still earn a good salary in some jobs that don't require degrees, but it is just much harder these days.

Yes, of course some parents pay for the fees of their offspring and that's good their good fortune. It still doesn't take away from my main point that regardless of your parents' financial situation, you will generally gain a financial advantage over those who did not (certain degrees notwithstanding). It was your choice to attend college, no-one is pointing a gun at your head forcing you to go. The loan system ensures you don't have to worry about finances while studying but if you are paying attention, you will know exactly how much you need to pay when payments become due. A bit of financial planning will help here - it's not like the loan is a sudden, unexpected expense.

Take some time to read up on that loan system for students.
You could be over simplifying things while misunderstanding them AGAIN.

 

[scudsucker]

The police in America have been militarised, THAT is the problem.

I'd agree that that is part of the problem.

The shooting targets the police use for practise now include pregnant women and little children to desensitise, the targets are of white women and children by the way.

Of course, you have a cite to backup your contention that the police use targets that look like "little children" and "pregnant women", and further, these are represented by white people?

Yes?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Take some time to read up on that loan system for students.
You could be over simplifying things while misunderstanding them AGAIN.

I will do so. I'm more familiar with the UK student loan system, which is rather generous all things considered (interest rates very low and only pay based on what you earn).

 

[greg0205]

MAGA: Rubbish! TWICE as many white people are killed by cops!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

MATH: There are 328,2 million Americans. For every 100 of those Americans, 60 are white and 13 are black.

In 2020, 457 white folks, and 214 black folks were killed by police.

In order to say *all* lives matter *equally*, police would have to kill 214 black folks and then up their game and kill 1112 white folks every year, or cool their jets after killing 457 white folks and only kill 99 black folks.

That's how mathematical percentages work, and are different from looking at totals.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

There are a multitude of reasons that people don't go to college, it's not just finances. I know this might be a shock to you but many jobs, and especially those done by the working class don't require degrees. On top of that, before manufacturing went offshore (Biden better be working his damn hardest every single day to make America produce things again), you could easily earn a good salary as you were taught skills on the job. You can still earn a good salary in some jobs that don't require degrees, but it is just much harder these days.

It's about choice, Chris. Some people don't have the same choices that our parents provided for us. How many of these people you refer to do you actually meet? If you ask most of them what their biggest regret is, it's that they didn't have a better education.

I actually recommend apprenticeship in a lot cases rather than degrees.

Yes, of course some parents pay for the fees of their offspring and that's good their good fortune. It still doesn't take away from my main point that regardless of your parents' financial situation, you will generally gain a financial advantage over those who did not (certain degrees notwithstanding). It was your choice to attend college, no-one is pointing a gun at your head forcing you to go. The loan system ensures you don't have to worry about finances while studying but if you are paying attention, you will know exactly how much you need to pay when payments become due. A bit of financial planning will help here - it's not like the loan is a sudden, unexpected expense.

No one is forcing you to go, but you have done so to provide your offspring to have better options than you.

Then there are those privileged ones here, who have had an easy life that get upset when others, who have had it infinitely harder get a break. Are you scared that they may in fact be surpassed? Education for the rich only?

If we were not so privileged, would we pull all stops to ensure that we have a better quality of life? Or would we resign ourselves to the life of burger flipping, and disdain from the educated lot

 

[greg0205]

Is it really the case though that black suffer police brutality more on the basis of their race, even when you control for confounding factors like socioeconomic status? Is it not that poor communities have both more violent criminals and more black people in them? By way of example, I don't think that police specifically target men yet most people who are shot by police are men.

Yes it is, and congratulations... You're so close to understanding systemic racism.

 

[SoldierMan]

MAGA: Rubbish! TWICE as many white people are killed by cops!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

MATH: There are 328,2 millions Americans. For every 100 of those Americans, 60 are white and 13 are black.

In 2021, 457 white folks, and 214 black folks were killed by police.

In order to say *all* lives matter *equally*, police would have to up their game and kill 1112 white folks every year, or cool their jets and only kill 99 black folks.

That's how mathematical percentages work, and are different from looking at totals.

LOL You are cowardly and didn't even respond to lumeer's post who addressed this issue.

But that aside, is it not true that according to mathematical percentages the amount of black people in jail is far more than what they should be according to their overall population numbers?

This is born out by the fact that there are far more black people in jail than white people, despite the population numbers of the two groups.

Now there are many reasons for this, growing up in neighbourhoods with crime, poverty, gangs, drugs, etc, etc.

So having said that, you would then expect that more black males, specifically, would be involved in police shootings because of crime than you would expect according solely to population numbers, and NOT because the majority of police are racist in America as you and the liberal media are pushing so so hard.

 

[greg0205]

LOL You are cowardly and didn't even respond to lumeer's post who addressed this issue.

But that aside, is it not true that according to mathematical percentages the amount of black people in jail is far more than what they should be according to their overall population numbers?

This is born out by the fact that there are far more black people in jail than white people, despite the population numbers of the two groups.

Now there are many reasons for this, growing up in neighbourhoods with crime, poverty, gangs, drugs, etc, etc.

So having said that, you would then expect that more black males, specifically, would be involved in police shootings because of crime than you would expect according solely to population numbers, and NOT because the majority of police are racist in America as you and the liberal media are pushing so so hard.

Hey Siri, who are Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, and what is the war on drugs?

 

[tetrasect]

MAGA: Rubbish! TWICE as many white people are killed by cops!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

MATH: There are 328,2 millions Americans. For every 100 of those Americans, 60 are white and 13 are black.

In 2021, 457 white folks, and 214 black folks were killed by police.

In order to say *all* lives matter *equally*, police would have to up their game and kill 1112 white folks every year, or cool their jets and only kill 99 black folks.

That's how mathematical percentages work, and are different from looking at totals.

True but you also have to consider that the crime rate among black folks is way higher.

For instance, in 2019, white people made up 45% of those arrested for robbery while black people made up 53%.

So that means that the percentage of black people arrested for robbery is 5.5 times higher than white people. That also means 5.5 times more robbery related police interactions (per capita of the black population).

I know arrests is not the best statistic to go by, I'm just saying it's not as straight forward as you make it either.