US Politics : Biden 100 days edition

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greg0205

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Rocco De Wet: *Specifically* focus on colour and my assertion that twice as many white people are killed every year by police.

Rubbish.

Twice as many white people are killed every year by police than black people. You accept the false narrative they constantly brainwash you with.

If the media ALSO REPORTED on white people being killed by cops and not just push and push and push that it is only black people do you think things like this (below video) would happen?

What this guy in the video says is true. The media are becoming the cause of bad blood between black and white in the USA. They are pushing real real real hard that blacks are hard done by by white people. It will have consequences like this shooting.

The legacy media only reports when blacks are harmed when whites are targeted it doesn't get as much attention or hype. Dangerous.

Why would he say this:



The media told him that's what is happening, that's why.

Coward Goes on Shooting Spree for White People​




Also Rocco De Wet: *Specifically* ignore colour when that focus disproves my first post.

Hey babe cakes, how's my favourite doing? One problem with that sweety pie, greg isn't using that stats correctly, he is cherry-picking the data that suits him.

Never change, geevee.

Never change.
 
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Don't know if Alaska is a very Trump-y state or not - it's definitely a Republican state, but it's not quite the same thing. Will be interesting if Trump's candidate can pull off a win here.

Trump endorses Murkowski challenger

Alaska probably has one of the fairest voting methods in the entire country after passing a referendum on the issue:

Following voter approval of Ballot Measure 2 during the 2020 elections in Alaska, this will be the first U.S. Senate election in Alaska held under the new election process. All candidates will run in a nonpartisan blanket primary, from which the top four candidates will advance to the general election. Voters will then utilize ranked-choice voting during the general election

 

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In the first instance you obviously and predictably didn't read the article, which is about bird names

The birding community faces a difficult debate about the names of species connected to enslavers, supremacists and grave robbers

In the second instance you dismissed the experience of black people because...why? What's your issue with the post?
 
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Manchin threading the needle masterfully regarding voting rights. Note Jamie Harrison is black and is the current DNC chair, so has some influence.

Former Texas congressman-turned-voting rights advocate Beto O’Rourke and Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison on Friday backed Sen. Joe Manchin’s (D-W.Va.) proposed compromise on voting rights.
O’Rourke, who founded Powered by People, an organization registering voters in Texas, called Manchin’s proposal “progress” in an interview on CNN Friday.
“I am so grateful for what Sen. Manchin has done and what he's doing right now,” O’Rourke said. “He's trying to find a way to protect voting rights in this country at a moment that they are under attack in more than 40 states.”


Harrison called Manchin's proposal a "step forward" for voting rights in an interview of his own on MSNBC Friday.
“You have to see the progress,” Harrison said. “Many of us thought he was a ‘no,’ not only a ‘no,’ but a ‘hell, no,’ but it seems like he has softened his stance and he is willing to work to find some common ground to move forward.”
O’Rourke and Harrison’s support comes after Stacey Abrams, one of the country’s most prominent voting rights activists, backed Manchin's compromise on the For the People Act on Thursday. A red-state moderate, Manchin had come out against his party's sweeping election reform bill earlier this month in a blow to Democrats’ top legislative priority, but put forward a compromise Wednesday.

 

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Don't know if Alaska is a very Trump-y state or not - it's definitely a Republican state, but it's not quite the same thing. Will be interesting if Trump's candidate can pull off a win here.

Trump endorses Murkowski challenger

Alaska probably has one of the fairest voting methods in the entire country after passing a referendum on the issue:



AK is ranked-choice and I'm betting Lisa Murkowski will stomp Kelly.
 
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In the first instance you obviously and predictably didn't read the article, which is about bird names

The birding community faces a difficult debate about the names of species connected to enslavers, supremacists and grave robbers

In the second instance you dismissed the experience of black people because...why? What's your issue with the post?

1. Fair play but again, so what? A bird name is different to say, a statue, where it could conceivably be argued that a statue indicates you "honour" the person. Is it really an issue? Bet 99.999% of people who enjoy birds and participate in bird-watching don't care that much. Making a mountain out of a molehill.

2. Well we are just told (without any evidence) that America's history of anti-foraging laws target black and Native Americans, even though we are told it remains a "fringe activity" which suggests to me that many Americans aren't familiar with foraging and might call the police not because the person is black or whatever but because they are unfamiliar with the activity that you are doing and probably think you are stealing their berries. The subject of the article then assumes she has to dress up to make herself look respectable because she is black, but again this anecdotal. Does she suggest white people can look like hoodlums but forage without interference? Here's the thing: anyone who dresses respectably will give off better first impressions than if you dress like a homeless person. That's just the way it is.

Elsewhere in the world, foraging is second nature—Sweden’s constitution actually enshrines the right of every citizen to pick wild berries. But in the United States it remains a fringe activity. In Nelson’s TikToks, between delivering giddy identification guides and recipes in song, she discusses America’s history of anti-foraging laws and regulations, many of which target Black and indigenous people. “Race affects every act of foraging I commit,” Nelson told me, including her technicolor onscreen persona. “If I’m in a part of the city where the rules are ambiguous, I have to make sure that I seem very approachable, and look like I’m in a good mood, and have makeup on my face. A lot of that translates, on the Internet, as just a happy, fun time—no one’s going to call the cops on a person in some rainbow-chiffon dress. At least, I hope not.”
 

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Rocco De Wet: *Specifically* focus on colour and my assertion that twice as many white people are killed every year by police.



Also Rocco De Wet: *Specifically* ignore colour when that focus disproves my first post.



Never change, geevee.

Never change.

Did I or did I not expand on those stats I gave?
Remember the post that you had no answer to.

Yeah, you once again cherry-picked one of my posts and left out my follow up posts in which I expanded on those initial stats.

Very disingenuous of you, but then we never can expect a debate in good faith from you.
 

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1. Fair play but again, so what? A bird name is different to say, a statue, where it could conceivably be argued that a statue indicates you "honour" the person. Is it really an issue? Bet 99.999% of people who enjoy birds and participate in bird-watching don't care that much. Making a mountain out of a molehill.

2. Well we are just told (without any evidence) that America's history of anti-foraging laws target black and Native Americans, even though we are told it remains a "fringe activity" which suggests to me that many Americans aren't familiar with foraging and might call the police not because the person is black or whatever but because they are unfamiliar with the activity that you are doing and probably think you are stealing their berries. The subject of the article then assumes she has to dress up to make herself look respectable because she is black, but again this anecdotal. Does she suggest white people can look like hoodlums but forage without interference? Here's the thing: anyone who dresses respectably will give off better first impressions than if you dress like a homeless person. That's just the way it is.

2) Look at Lindani Myeni for instance, or Amy Cooper. These aren't isolated cases - most black people in America would say that they need to take extraordinary measures to reassure white people just to be safe from the police, and even then it's no guarantee of anything.
 

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Did I or did I not expand on those stats I gave?
Remember the post that you had no answer to.

Yeah, you once again cherry-picked one of my posts and left out my follow up posts in which I expanded on those initial stats.

Very disingenuous of you, but then we never can expect a debate in good faith from you.
lumeer's post?

Considered it answered by the post you've been reee-ing about since yesterday. Didn't tag him 'tho and if that's your issue, well then you're the only one with an issue.

Also, expand on anything?

You?

Thanks for the laugh, pal.
 

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2) Look at Lindani Myeni for instance, or Amy Cooper. These aren't isolated cases - most black people in America would say that they need to take extraordinary measures to reassure white people just to be safe from the police, and even then it's no guarantee of anything.
The subject of the article then assumes she has to dress up to make herself look respectable because she is black, but again this anecdotal
@The_Right_Honourable_Brit


here is 20 minutes of one black lady's stories about her interactions with the police. I really, really, really wish you would take the time and listen to her:

So now there are two black women telling you their reality. If you take the time to actually listen to them, it becomes harder and harder to handwave away experiences as "anecdotal"
 

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lumeer's post?

Considered it answered by the post you've been reee-ing about since yesterday. Didn't tag him 'tho and if that's your issue, well then you're the only one with an issue.

Also, expand on anything?

You?

Thanks for the laugh, pal.

Disingenuous to the end.
 

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait...

Was your Kamala Sucks YouTube guy your 'expand on those stats' thing?

Please tell me it is, I haven't posted a wall of hahahahahahah for ages.

Ai yai yai, clearly you are not playing with a full deck or just playing really dumb.....
 

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In the first instance you obviously and predictably didn't read the article, which is about bird names

The birding community faces a difficult debate about the names of species connected to enslavers, supremacists and grave robbers

In the second instance you dismissed the experience of black people because...why? What's your issue with the post?
Do you equate this to the use of the word Hotnot here in the Cape? Genuinely interested if we can draw the parallel? A lot of people have been making this an issue, although the ones I've encountered have all been white guilt progressives who feel they need to parachute in to save the poor coloureds because they can't help themselves.This is an incredibly racist thing to do. A bit like Biden intimating blacks don't have the ability to get ID's, use computers or get access to lawyers.

I fish and spearfish with a bunch of people, including coloured guys who would tell you to stop patronising them or f*** off if you referred to a Hotnot as a Kaapse Galjoen. Hottentot Seabream in English.
 

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In the first instance you obviously and predictably didn't read the article, which is about bird names

The birding community faces a difficult debate about the names of species connected to enslavers, supremacists and grave robbers

In the second instance you dismissed the experience of black people because...why? What's your issue with the post?
..and in the third instance, that's the legendary Titania McGrath, so :ROFL:
 
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